sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:28am:



I know what I have written and longweekend69er's opinion written as a fact required proof to be classified as a a fact.

As of yet, neither he or you have backed up your opinion, so are not rational questions, and so do not require answering.


It's up to you to prove your claim, not me.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:33am:


For the first part Palestine has been mentioned in many ancient texts and the fact the USA and Australia will recognise Palestine along with the other 135 nations once it has reached an accord with Israel makes your claim absurd....Aboriginal people were granted native title because they are considered the first custodians of the land....Your whole argument is complete bullshit as usual???

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-vatican-recognizes-palestine-as-a-state-anger...

http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/pt/

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:58am:



Illegal activities like stealing land is like that act of terrorism.
How is that stating Israel is a terror orgaination.

Also I state continually, the Palestinian Authority are democratically elected.

And have also stated that Israel has the choice of dealing with the Palestinian Authority or Islamic State. Which would be the better chance of Israel's path of a two state solution where both states live in peace, side by side.

Me think, you have no rational argument and so troll to try and make yourselves (both you and longweekend69er) relevant to the thread.


Now when making claims of what I say, please have the decency to have actual proof, and not just here say.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:03am:



Using 'we' to try and back up your weak position.
I am only aware of two posters making the claim and both having ulterior motives. i.e losing to me in so many previous debates.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:11am:



Ancient maps is the best you can come up with?  The point is that there is no country called Palestine so any 'recognition' is symbolic and therefore meaningless in the real world. You might as well recognise the United Federation of Planets. That doesnt exist either.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:11am:


As much as I don't like agreeing with longie, Palestine was not a sovereign state.  It was a region, mandated to be administrated by Britain after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. 

Palestine should be a sovereign state today. Completely agree. However, not while terrorists govern the Gaza Strip with the intentions to destroy Israel.  No UN resolution should pass while Hamas exists.  Much to the greens disappointment, because they of course support terrorist organisations.

sir prince duke alevine wrote....
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I agree and made the same point....Somehow I was side tracked into debating semantics....Palestine will never have peace whilst Hamas are in Government!!!

Its time wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:34am:



Google;
how many muslim nations are there                         ???


Around 50.

BUT, there is just one, tiny, Jewish state.




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IMAGE....



/sarc off

'We want our land back.'

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p.s.
So did the Jewish people.      



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Video tour through Israel.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4





Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.




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Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13  The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14  And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.


Joel 3:9
Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
10  Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
11  Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
12  Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
13  Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.


Zechariah 12:1
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
2  Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.


Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
40  For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
41  If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42  I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43  Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.




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