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Reply #15 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:33am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

Like most parents, we dont see naked kids as sexual. In fact, usually that is because they are having a nappy changed or having a bath because they are filthy - hardly erotic activities.

what are you talking about you sick freak. it wasn't Ian trawling primary school grounds looking for children to prey on like Henson and his supporters. how stupid could you be?

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“I call on you to take a stand against the sexual exploitation of children and prevent this from going ahead,’’ he states.
“I understand that life is complex and there are always competing interests, but the day we think it is acceptable to display images of a naked girl being strangled by a naked boy, or a girl being smeared in menstrual blood, is the day we have well and truly slid into the grey soup of moral relativism.’’

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Reply #16 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

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Reply #17 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 1:36pm

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

Like most parents, we dont see naked kids as sexual. In fact, usually that is because they are having a nappy changed or having a bath because they are filthy - hardly erotic activities.

what are you talking about you sick freak. it wasn't Ian trawling primary school grounds looking for children to prey on like Henson and his supporters. how stupid could you be?

If by trawling you mean there with the schools consent, the school approaching the parents and getting their consent.

This wasn't some dude rolling around in van with a pair of binoculars. Get a grip, and perhaps direct some of that anger at actual peadophiles who abuse kids.

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Reply #18 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture. The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing.

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Reply #19 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:17pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

oh my god,,

you'd have to be braindead to compare that poor girl being Napalmed to the sick perverted pictures of Henson,

unbelievable Shocked

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Reply #20 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 6:38pm

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

oh my god,,

you'd have to be braindead to compare that poor girl being Napalmed to the sick perverted pictures of Henson,

unbelievable Shocked

Shocked

Yeah, Henson was much less explicit and exploitative. The news paper printed a 9yo stark naked girl screaming and showing everything. Try it today and you'd get ten years jail.

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Reply #21 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:09pm

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say about naked children? 'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying.

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Reply #22 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:12pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture. The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing.

Nonsense, child porn is about context. A picture of your own young child in your photo album is not porn, on some peds computer it is.

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Reply #23 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:28am

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:12pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture. The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing.

Nonsense, child porn is about context. A picture of your own young child in your photo album is not porn, on some peds computer it is.

Try explaining that to the judge. The rules on CP are very well defined and scarily broad.

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Reply #24 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:01am

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say about naked children? 'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying.

That's your entire argument? There is absolutely no evidence he finds them sexual. A photograph of a landscape is beautiful, but that does not mean you are having dirt thoughts about it.

How exactly would a child be threatened by being in his art? Please inform me.

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Reply #25 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:01am

Kytro wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say about naked children? 'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying.

That's your entire argument? There is absolutely no evidence he finds them sexual. A photograph of a landscape is beautiful, but that does not mean you are having dirt thoughts about it.

How exactly would a child be threatened by being in his art? Please inform me.

I didnt 'like' Henson's stuff and thought they were inappropriate. But I think that about a lot of things that are legal. It is what we call out her on the Right s 'free thought and opinion'. But I'll be damned if I am going to let it be called child porn just to satisfy the extremists that would ban all photography of any child (actually suggested!), police checks to babysit your grandkids, playgrounds out-of-bounds for ANY adult (actually in place).

And despite all this nonsense, the rate of child abuse has not changed at all.

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Reply #26 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:14am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say about naked children? 'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying.

That's your entire argument? There is absolutely no evidence he finds them sexual. A photograph of a landscape is beautiful, but that does not mean you are having dirt thoughts about it.

How exactly would a child be threatened by being in his art? Please inform me.

I didnt 'like' Henson's stuff and thought they were inappropriate. But I think that about a lot of things that are legal. It is what we call out her on the Right s 'free thought and opinion'. But I'll be damned if I am going to let it be called child porn just to satisfy the extremists that would ban all photography of any child (actually suggested!), police checks to babysit your grandkids, playgrounds out-of-bounds for ANY adult (actually in place).

And despite all this nonsense, the rate of child abuse has not changed at all.

I have not even seen his work, but I'm assuming that little escapade would have ended with charges had there been a chance for successful conviction meaning that it almost certainly wasn't sexual in nature.

It's utterly ridiculous when magazines and the like have people the same age clothed but in provocative poses and that's a-ok.

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Reply #27 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:14am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find..

No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise.

Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention.

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Reply #28 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:24am

Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find..

No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise.

Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention.

You really ought to keep up. That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not.

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Reply #29 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:33am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find..

No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise.

Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention.

You really ought to keep up. That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not.

It would seem you are correct, we no longer have a legal definition of quite a few things, it's mob rule, who can be most offended & get as many as possible onboard the outrage bus.

Personally I'll have legal definition thanks, even if at times I don't agree.

At least it is consistent.

I mean look how fickle the public is, prime example is LNP supporters here.

6 months ago Turnbull sucked now his a GOD.

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REBELLION is when you turn off the TV & start educating & thinking for yourself.
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