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Reply #30 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:12pm

The fact that Fema Camps exist is not in dispute...Go to Google World and look at them for yourself.

Obama has never disputed the fact that Fema Camps exist..It is the sinister hidden agenda for the purpose that they are really there that is in dispute.

You don't build 'emergency relief centres then set them up like Auschwitz

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #31 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:12pm *
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39722 Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #32 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:14pm Quote: Obama has never disputed the fact that Fema Camps exist... I have not heard him dispute the existence of leprechauns either.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #33 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:48pm Perhaps we can get back to the main game of this thread. What do you see Australia being like in 2025 Aussie?
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Reply #34 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:24pm

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

Perhaps we can get back to the main game of this thread.

What do you see Australia being like in 2025 Aussie?

I'm no good at reading tea leaves. One thing is certain. Unless we start doing something about either making more bitumen or fewer cars on roads, both sides of every urban street will be where cars are parked.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41376 Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #35 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:25pm Australia has totally eradicated islam from its shores. Mosques have been confiscated and the funds used to pay for damages caused by islam. Many people are sterilised. Most thought by the genius blogger 'Sprintcyclist' have been adopted. It has led to a much better Australia
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #36 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:26pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:25pm: Australia has totally eradicated islam from its shores. Mosques have been confiscated and the funds used to pay for damages caused by islam. Many people are sterilised. Sprint showing his Christianity again
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #37 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:52pm Aussie that's Sydney right now, one big car park. Driving in Sydney is frantic and whatever you do, don't break down.
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Reply #38 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:58pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

Perhaps we can get back to the main game of this thread.

What do you see Australia being like in 2025 Aussie?

I'm no good at reading tea leaves. One thing is certain. Unless we start doing something about either making more bitumen or fewer cars on roads, both sides of every urban street will be where cars are parked.

"They" could just stop people over 70 driving cars! Would give you blokes who drive taxis and Uber more custom. Wink

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Reply #39 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:59pm

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

Hopefully, more old & religious people pass the way to their heaven. Leave ratio of independent smart people grows 10% higher.

So Old people are not smart people? Or religious people are not smart people?

A new study from Rice University-

'“No one today can deny that there is a popular ‘warfare’ framing between science and religion,” said the study’s principal investigator, Elaine Howard Ecklund, founding director of Rice University’s Religion and Public Life Program and the Herbert S. Autrey Chair in Social Sciences. “This is a war of words fueled by scientists, religious people and those in between.”

The study’s results challenge longstanding assumptions about the science-faith interface. While it is commonly assumed that most scientists are atheists, the global perspective resulting from the study shows that this is simply not the case.

“More than half of scientists in India, Italy, Taiwan and Turkey self-identify as religious,” Ecklund said. “And it’s striking that approximately twice as many ‘convinced atheists’ exist in the general population of Hong Kong, for example, (55 percent) compared with the scientific community in this region (26 percent).” '
http://news.rice.edu/2015/12/03/first-worldwide-survey-of-religion-and-science-n...

Your comment is a good example to show the major difference between religious people and independent people.

In this forum, under political view, my argument has nothing to do with science.

The point is whether your mind is free, smart, independent or not. You can see, religious people easily bring up and quote someone's opinion to supoort yours. It is simila to you quote something from Bible, it's your thinking habit. To be contrast, people think more and independently, start from some known poins, find evidences or observe facts, abstract some theories out then summarize some results. The results are very likely to be wrong, but it's your true own opinion, it can later be corrcted through practice, your way of thinking, your common sense get more and more close to truth in this process. You mind is open in this case. You don't need an authority above you to guide.

Having a religion, having a god, having a queen, having a big boss to tell you what you should do, that's the fundamental difference. Can you understand?

Scientists say they believe in something, it is very likely they don't want to be different to other religious people arround them. Saying something doesn't mean they really agree something. Any adult knows this, if you don't know, suggest you watch more TV news, to see the performance of those politicians more, they are very good at this.

Science doesn't refuse existence of supreme ruling power, it is exactly what science is looking for. Can you think and answer what is science can not accept from religious teaching? Cheesy

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Reply #40 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:28pm

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

Your comment is a good example to show the major difference between religious people and independent people.

You claim thoughts that are not your own, they have been formed for you; how sad.
I am an agnostic as far as religion is concerned, so it is not religious fervour that brought the post to your attention.

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

Scientists say they believe in something, it is very likely they don't want to be different to other religious people arround them.

So that explains the variation in the beliefs of scientists, even within cultures?

Very delusional.

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Reply #41 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:17pm

@lee, I don't want to argue with you, I totally understand why you believe and think in your current way. I do think religion like yours will exist for very verry long time. I also respect religion's ability and value in terms of building a peaceful social order, especially Christianity teachings.

I just want to show you what's the difference in my view. It maybe right, maybe wrong, but definitely different to yours.

The point is I and people like me don't find evidences and support from upper authorities, but from experience and common logical sense. In your view, probably religion and science is in opposite positions, but I suppose you may put them in a greater position on top of normal people. But I tell you in my view, science is only a tool, it's not something mystery but totally understandable. We don't believe in science, there is nothing to believe in. I don't believe in my drilling machine, right? When I find a new model of driller, it drills faster, more stable, more reliable, cheaper, I will use the new model.

So we learn e=mc2, because it is current right model, when we discuss physics questions we can quote and use this, but I don't need to emphasize it is said by Einstan to make it sounds more correct. If I use it in my discussion, I can put a reference in the page footer to quote Einstan's name, it is to respect his effort and work but not to worship him.

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Reply #42 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:25pm

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

@lee, I don't want to argue with you, I totally understand why you believe and think in your current way. I do think religion like yours will exist for very verry long time. I also respect religion's ability and value in terms of building a peaceful social order, especially Christianity teachings.

Please explain what you believe agnostic means?

Me, I am a sceptic. That's what science is all about. Put up a hypothesis, clearly explained, working papers etc, and let others see if they can disprove the hypothesis. it is not a belief system.

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Reply #43 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:42am

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own.

I acknowledge your original premise.

My idea on Australia 10 years from now:

For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control.

In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless.

In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???' (Country Shoppers') coming here.

There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war.

The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!!

Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen.

I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

There is no need for any concern because ten years from now Australia will be very prosperous province of China.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Australia 10 years from now. Reply #44 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:45am No Athos...the Muslims wouldn't stand for it!
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