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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: Climate-change foes winning public opinion war Reply #45 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 11:14am John_Taverner wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 11:07am: You're talking about a dumbed down summary of the science? Yeah, the one interfered with by politicians that may not reflect the science.
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Reply #46 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 7:59pm

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 11:14am:

John_Taverner wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 11:07am:

You're talking about a dumbed down summary of the science?

Yeah, the one interfered with by politicians that may not reflect the science.

I don't disagree with you, except that it usually ends up as an understated, watered down version, because politicians want to do as little as possible, especially if it means jeopardising their chances of re-election.

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: Climate-change foes winning public opinion war Reply #47 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:48pm The problem is that the MSM reports the SPM as the science. Which completely screws the message. The mugs accept the SPM as gospel.
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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2217 Gender:	Re: Climate-change foes winning public opinion war Reply #48 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:21am lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:48pm: The problem is that the MSM reports the SPM as the science. Which completely screws the message. The mugs accept the SPM as gospel. Give me an example of where you think the Summary "screws the message" given by the science.
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Reply #49 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 4:21pm

John_Taverner wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:21am:

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:48pm:

The problem is that the MSM reports the SPM as the science. Which completely screws the message. The mugs accept the SPM as gospel.

Give me an example of where you think the Summary "screws the message" given by the science.

Where in the SPM does it mention "hiatus"? A fact that caused at least one reader of this forum to trumpet that the IPCC had never said that there was an hiatus. For that matter the models never forecast an hiatus.

What about doubts about the climate models? In the report they used and expert judgement to determine the climate model output. Conclusion: the models were running too hot. Else the roars would have been "it is worse than we thought". But somehow in spite of that their confidence in the models went from high to very high.

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