Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
I am no longer going to waste time on conservatives frightened by change. I have tried in the past and it doesn’t change their mind because FEAR overrides it.
Good, now stop sh!tting yourself over the propaganda of the oligarchy who want to tax us plebs on the air we breath through their banks. Banks will run the carbon derivatives market.
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
Leave it as this:
CO2 is a greenhouse gas
Yes it is but it is also a trace gas which means that it exists in minute amounts at 0.04% of the atmosphere that's 0.0004 of the atmosphere.
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
Increasing GHG concentrations in the atmosphere increases the greenhouse effect.
It certainly contributes in some small way.
Quote:The above figure is taken from an often cited paper, including by the IPCC, titled “Earth’s Annual Global Energy Budget” by Kiehl and Trenberth from the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 1997, with notations that we added.
The top curve shows how the intensity of the average heat leaving the earth’s surface varies with infrared wavelength. The lower jagged curve is that leaving at the top of the atmosphere under average cloudy conditions.
The area under a curve is its total heat in watts per square meter. Note the large downward notch leaving the atmosphere in the 12 to 18 microns range caused by CO2.
It is such a strong absorber here that it cannot release its heat outward until the density of its molecules drops significantly at high altitudes where the temperature is about –60 F. Hence the low radiation rate.
If the amount of CO2 increases, the escape altitude moves up causing both the temperature and heat loss to drop further. The area of the CO2 notch below the dashed line is about 22 watts per square meter and represents the impact of the total CO2 given the existing clouds and water vapor.
Doubling CO2, taking over 100 years at the current growth rate, would move the notch downward and increase the area by about 3.5 watts per square meter, or 16%. When the heat loss drops, since the net heat from the sun remains at 235, the atmosphere gains heat and warms about 1 degree C until its emissions rise back to 235, restoring balance. A warmer atmosphere reduces the heat loss from the surface, and it also warms about 1 C.
This is all that CO2 does. And very slowly. The feedback processes can increase or decrease this warming, as they do for any other temperature change
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/04/25/i-am-a-climate-skeptic-who-believes-in-glo... on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
As we increase the greenhouse effect the earth grows hotter.
That is an incorrect statement, temperature controls the amount of CO2 that gets released into our atmosphere, CO2 doesn't control temperature, it contributes in some small way and that's about it.
Here take a look at Earth's energy budget, watch from the 54 minute mark.
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
The earth has been growing hotter: 2015 will be the world’s hottest year on record.
The Earth temperature fluctuates in cycles it goes up and it goes down, don't try and tell me that you think we can somehow controls this and have the temperature flatline....???...if you do think we can do this you are a person.
Today we have some of the lowest temperatures and atmospheric CO2 in our history, and what goes down will go up, don't forget we are still coming our of a mini ice age.
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
So increasing CO2 increases the globes temperatures
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No incorrect statement increasing CO2 contributes to global warming but CO2 has never controlled temperature here on Earth in all of our known history, even when it was 20 times more abundant at (7000 ppm) in the atmosphere.
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3
rd, 2015 at 3:01pm:
Now, you will make up a little fairy story to belittle all that. The FEAR is still there and so is the FEAR AGW is happening! Happy Christmass!
No fairy stories just cold hard facts......
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