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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #180 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:58am We constantly see one party send off troops on some bloody, misguided adventure. The other party howls in protest. When the other party eventually gets into power, does it bring the troops home? Nooooo! Setanta, do you really hold the majority of voters responsible for this?
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Reply #181 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:08am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:34am:

That sounds like a final solution to the Muslim question.

Korrect.

The Final Solution to the Jewish Problem began as a compulsory deportation to Israel organised by Adolf Eichmann. Many hundreds were shipped out of Germany for this destination.

But then Herman Goering (not Goebbels, Hitler, or Himmler) - decided at a meeting that instead of deportation - extermination was the best option.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #182 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117657 Melbourne Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #183 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:38am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am: But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be. The Muslims are now more hated than the Jews ever were - I know what Hitler would have done - buy hey - we're the good guys.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #184 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:39am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am: But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be. I dont recall that boges... got the link???....in fact I dont recall Hitler trying to deport them... he wanted them GONE>
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #185 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:39am read "exterminated"
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #186 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:43am ian wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:23am: Nothing to do with gun laws. Everything to do with Islamic culture. Errr....Accept all those mass shootings that are not committed by Muslims....I guess we should just ignore them so we can keep up the outrage???
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Reply #187 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:46am

cods wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be.

I dont recall that boges... got the link???....in fact I dont recall Hitler trying to deport them... he wanted them GONE>

The MS St. Louis was a German ocean liner most notable for a single voyage in 1939, in which her captain, Gustav Schröder, tried to find homes for 908 Jewish refugees from Germany, after they were denied entry to Cuba and the United States, until finally accepted in various European countries, which were later engulfed in World War II. Historians have estimated that, after their return to Europe, approximately a quarter of the ship's passengers died in death camps. The event was the subject of a 1974 book, Voyage of the Damned, by Gordon Thomas and Max Morgan-Witts. It was adapted for a 1976 US film of the same title.

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Reply #188 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:50am

The link is in the histories cods. The Germans from 1935 to1938 were happy and willing to deport Jews, except those they saw as communists or dangerous intellectuals. But there were no takers. The British, Australians & Americans were to a greater or less degree antisemitic. And the Brits were fearful of trouble in Palestine if more were sent there.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #189 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:54am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am: But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be. I have yet to read the book on that to find out what was the real reason the British refused them entry.
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Reply #190 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:57am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be.

I have yet to read the book on that to find out what was the real reason the British refused them entry.

THE REAL reason boags has it right

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Reply #191 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:00am

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be.

To be fair - that's not entirely true.

At that time there was no hint of extermination camps - it was all about moving the Jews and other 'undesirables' eastwards to Labour Camps in forested areas.

Not even the Jews on these ships had a clue of what was eventually decided to be their fate. If they had known, they would have beached the ships somewhere along the South America coast and taken refuge there.

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Reply #192 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:05am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:00am:

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be.

To be fair - that's not entirely true.

At that time there was no hint of extermination camps - it was all about moving the Jews and other 'undesirables' eastwards to Labour Camps in forested areas.

Not even the Jews on these ships had a clue of what was eventually decided to be their fate. If they had known, they would have beached the ships somewhere along the South America coast and taken refuge there.

Sounds like you need to brush up on your history Herb!!!

Roll Eyes

http://www.history.com/topics/kristallnacht

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373131

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #193 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:05am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:38am: The Muslims are now more hated than the Jews ever were - I know what Hitler would have done - but hey - we're the good guys. Korrect, Bobby. We mustn't let our imaginations wander with ideas that might frighten the horses.
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Reply #194 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:14am

The story so far

They are muslims
They destroyed their phones and hard drive 2 days before the attack
They dropped off their baby to families 1 hour before attacking
They had thousands of round of ammo delivered in the weeks before the attack
They had about a dozen pipe bombs in their car
They had even more in their garage along with the thousands of rounds of ammo
The woman is claimed to have radicalised him
She pledge allegiance to IS caliphate

Unfortunately there were no suicide vest so I can't call this radical muslim attack

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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