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Reply #165 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

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Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
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And never confuse a faith that teaches they can still do this sheet today with others that do not teach that such as christianity and others.

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Reply #166 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

Yes. I was sacked for not being a christian. Legal discrimination. The reason was, "what would you tell a child when they are having problems with their work on a computer? I would pray with them that they overcome and persevere, what would you do?" A: I would show them what they did wrong, show them ways to find the help they need for the task, help them to understand the software and nomenclature, show them how to overcome their problem.

Nope, we'd rather someone to pray with them.

It sounds like you were in the wrong job anyway....Teaching someone how to be independent goes against the grain of religion!!!

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Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

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Reply #167 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:35pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

Yes. I was sacked for not being a christian. Legal discrimination. The reason was, "what would you tell a child when they are having problems with their work on a computer? I would pray with them that they overcome and persevere, what would you do?" A: I would show them what they did wrong, show them ways to find the help they need for the task, help them to understand the software and nomenclature, show them how to overcome their problem.

Nope, we'd rather someone to pray with them.

It sounds like you were in the wrong job anyway....Teaching someone how to be independent goes against the grain of religion!!!

Huh

Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

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Was a good job really. I don't mind people having beliefs I don't hold. I was there 18 years. I just think discrimination is nasty from wherever it comes. That it is legal, is criminal.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #168 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:23am Nothing to do with gun laws. Everything to do with Islamic culture.
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Reply #169 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:35am

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

And never confuse a faith that teaches they can still do this sheet today with others that do not teach that such as christianity and others.

Some Christian Churches quote Leviticus 20:13 and have covered up sexual abuse of children....They still do that crap today....Ever heard of the Westboro Baptist Church???

Huh

http://www.religioustolerance.org/bibl_hate1.htm

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/westboro-baptist-church-san-bernardino-inland-regi...

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Reply #170 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:39am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

And never confuse a faith that teaches they can still do this sheet today with others that do not teach that such as christianity and others.

Some Christian Churches quote Leviticus 20:13 and have covered up sexual abuse of children....They still do that crap today....Ever heard of the Westboro Baptist Church???

Huh

Anyone can quote Leviticus out of context until the cows come home Christianity still does not teach they can do that to this day. That was quoted from the old testament.

Like I said "And never confuse a faith that teaches they can still do this sheet today with others that do not teach that such as Christianity and others."

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Reply #171 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:42am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

Yes. I was sacked for not being a christian. Legal discrimination. The reason was, "what would you tell a child when they are having problems with their work on a computer? I would pray with them that they overcome and persevere, what would you do?" A: I would show them what they did wrong, show them ways to find the help they need for the task, help them to understand the software and nomenclature, show them how to overcome their problem.

Nope, we'd rather someone to pray with them.

It sounds like you were in the wrong job anyway....Teaching someone how to be independent goes against the grain of religion!!!

Huh

Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

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Rational arguments certainly don't work on non religious people either. So we can all drop the silly I know more than you bullsheet.

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Reply #172 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:01am

cosanostra wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:42am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

Yes. I was sacked for not being a christian. Legal discrimination. The reason was, "what would you tell a child when they are having problems with their work on a computer? I would pray with them that they overcome and persevere, what would you do?" A: I would show them what they did wrong, show them ways to find the help they need for the task, help them to understand the software and nomenclature, show them how to overcome their problem.

Nope, we'd rather someone to pray with them.

It sounds like you were in the wrong job anyway....Teaching someone how to be independent goes against the grain of religion!!!

Huh

Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

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Rational arguments certainly don't work on non religious people either. So we can all drop the silly I know more than you bullsheet.

I am still waiting for you to have a rational argument....I am an agnostic which means I respect all people have a right to what ever faith they choose to follow....My problem is with people who refuse to accept failings in their own religion yet have no problem finding fault in others....I have never claimed to know more than anybody but if that is what you believe who am I to argue!!!

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg (1933 - ), quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999

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Reply #173 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:21am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:01am:

I am still waiting for you to have a rational argument....

No you're not but that's besides the point.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:01am:

I am an agnostic which means I respect all people have a right to what ever faith they choose to follow....

I don't care what you think you are.

Yet here you disrespect them by quoting "Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. "

As if you have some higher intellect by quoting it. Personally to me it shows you have less and are closed minded.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:01am:

My problem is with people who refuse to accept failings in their own religion yet have no problem finding fault in others....

My problem is with people who see failings in other peoples religions yet have no idea about those religions in question....

Much like you quoting Leviticus out of context .
The only reason you even state that is your problem above is to oppose the general consensus there is no other reason.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:01am:

I have never claimed to know more than anybody but if that is what you believe who am I to argue!!!

An ignorant liar

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:01am:

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

Incorrect.

evil
ˈiːv(ə)l,-vɪl/Submit
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1.
profoundly immoral and wicked.
"his evil deeds"
synonyms: wicked, bad, wrong, morally wrong, wrongful, immoral, sinful, ungodly, unholy, foul, vile, base, ignoble, dishonourable, corrupt, iniquitous, depraved, degenerate, villainous, nefarious, sinister, vicious, malicious, malevolent, demonic, devilish, diabolic, diabolical, fiendish, dark, black-hearted; More

An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. An atheist is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings.

Just so you know what one is.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #174 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:28am I think the US is a lost cause in the case of gun control. Where would any politician start? What would gun control look like in the US? The "War on guns" is probably never going to start. Perhaps the only way to stop mass shootings is to arm everyone. That is so absurd I cant believe I just wrote that
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Reply #175 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:03am

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

The military need to round these feckers up in London, the areas they control are obvious. You can't even walk through them. Round every single one up and lock the feckers up period.

The same with france and every other country. No more dicking around. If moderates want to pretend the Quran doesn't teach violence then no problems. Let them live in peace but the moment they start sheet up lock em up as well. These bag of dicks only understand one thing, force.

Correct.

But jailing them only keeps them in the system like fleas on a dog.

With their illegal mobile phones they organise drug deals, terrorist hits, 'radicalisation' programs, people smuggling, and the rest.

Deportation is the only permanent solution ... with every last one of their extended families, of course. 'Root-and-branch'.

It's like doing an 'uninstall' on the computer where you use an application that seeks out and uninstalls every little trace of the offending party that's hidden in various places throughout your system. Total elimination.

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Reply #176 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:06am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

It sounds like you were in the wrong job anyway....Teaching someone how to be independent goes against the grain of religion!!!

Huh

Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007

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Reply #177 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:34am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:03am:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

The military need to round these feckers up in London, the areas they control are obvious. You can't even walk through them. Round every single one up and lock the feckers up period.

The same with france and every other country. No more dicking around. If moderates want to pretend the Quran doesn't teach violence then no problems. Let them live in peace but the moment they start sheet up lock em up as well. These bag of dicks only understand one thing, force.

Correct.

But jailing them only keeps them in the system like fleas on a dog.

With their illegal mobile phones they organise drug deals, terrorist hits, 'radicalisation' programs, people smuggling, and the rest.

Deportation is the only permanent solution ... with every last one of their extended families, of course. 'Root-and-branch'.

It's like doing an 'uninstall' on the computer where you use an application that seeks out and uninstalls every little trace of the offending party that's hidden in various places throughout your system. Total elimination.

That sounds like a final solution to the Muslim question.

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Reply #178 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:40am

miketrees wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:28am:

I think the US is a lost cause in the case of gun control.

Where would any politician start?

What would gun control look like in the US?

The "War on guns" is probably never going to start.

Perhaps the only way to stop mass shootings is to arm everyone.

That is so absurd I cant believe I just wrote that

I get your drift.

The USA, it is what it is and can only get worse. So be it.

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