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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #150 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:15pm Farook: a good example of a devout Muslim. http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/12/03/syed-farook-san-bernardino-devout-musli...
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Reply #151 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:25pm

Phemanderac wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 2:40pm:

Of course when stronger gun laws do work, then we have all those lip quivering, self obsessed guns for security blanket needing babies whining like stuck pigs for ever and a day....

Give me a break.

If guns were made illegal in the US, the prison population would increase by 25% and it would cost the government billions to police the black-market, and the Bad Guys would always have access to fire arms no matter what the laws say about it.

What we don't hear is how many people in the US save their lives and the lives of their families because they have a gun in the home.

33,000 Americans die by gun-fire each year, and it would be fair to say that a goodly percentage of this was innocent people defending themselves. The rest are criminals shooting criminals - a public service performed by the criminals themselves.

These small 'rampage' killings are nothing within the context of a nation of hundreds of millions of people.

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Reply #152 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:35pm

Very obvious those two had a plan. Might have been moved up for some reason, non-halal food at the Christmas party, alcohol being served, or just being Christmas and celebrating the birth of Jesus and so obviously superior to Mohammed in every way - but who knows. My guess is the terrorist Syed decided to advance his plan during the early stage of the party, displeased with something - took off and went home and told the wife it is game on. We'll do it for Islam...and move on to another target afterwards. Might need armed guards for Christmas functions in the western world now....Thanks politicians. We owe you....for your foolish import of many many millions, across the western world, inherently against our way of life. Next election will be a treat. Liberals, Labor, and Greens dead last on our ballots. Australian Liberty Alliance is the only solution to nearly every issue you've so ineptly handled. Anyone who cares about the future should join...now.

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Reply #153 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:43pm

[/quote] If guns were made illegal in the US, the prison population would increase by 25% and it would cost the government billions to police the black-market, and the Bad Guys would always have access to fire arms no matter what the laws say about it.

What we don't hear is how many people in the US save their lives and the lives of their families because they have a gun in the home.

33,000 Americans die by gun-fire each year, and it would be fair to say that a goodly percentage of this was innocent people defending themselves. The rest are criminals shooting criminals - a public service performed by the criminals themselves.

These small 'rampage' killings are nothing within the context of a nation of hundreds of millions of people.
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I found the same stat broken down. Of those 33,000...21,000 were suicide. Another 500+ accidental. Not sure how much would be gang violence, latino, black, etc....but it would be thousands as well. So regular law abiding Americans killed by crooks, domestics, mass murder, terrorism etc? I'm guessing 6-7,000 a year at worst. Still way too many....

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Reply #154 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:19pm

garbonzo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:35pm:

Very obvious those two had a plan. Might have been moved up for some reason, non-halal food at the Christmas party, alcohol being served, or just being Christmas and celebrating the birth of Jesus and so obviously superior to Mohammed in every way - but who knows. My guess is the terrorist Syed decided to advance his plan during the early stage of the party, displeased with something - took off and went home and told the wife it is game on. We'll do it for Islam...and move on to another target afterwards. Might need armed guards for Christmas functions in the western world now....Thanks politicians. We owe you....for your foolish import of many many millions, across the western world, inherently against our way of life. Next election will be a treat. Liberals, Labor, and Greens dead last on our ballots. Australian Liberty Alliance is the only solution to nearly every issue you've so ineptly handled. Anyone who cares about the future should join...now.

Yes I had these bag of dicks pegged as muslims the moment I heard about it. The turd probably cracked a fat at one of the reindeer in attendance and thought allah would pounce on him. He just happened to be stocking up on ammo at home in his garage and have a willing hijabi wife waiting at home in case he got offended at the work Christmas party by happy people. yah right. ROFL Grin

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Reply #156 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:36pm

You read social media from the U.S and there's an air of; "I've never invaded Iraq. I don't persecute Muslims. I'm a law abiding, tax paying gun owner. You, the government have failed to protect us. Why should I give up my gun? So some crazy Muslim can get his 72 virgins by killing me and my family in the local shopping centre? Not without a fight douche-bag".

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Reply #157 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:37pm

The military need to round these feckers up in London, the areas they control are obvious. You can't even walk through them. Round every single one up and lock the feckers up period.

The same with france and every other country. No more dicking around. If moderates want to pretend the Quran doesn't teach violence then no problems. Let them live in peace but the moment they start sheet up lock em up as well. These bag of dicks only understand one thing, force.

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Reply #159 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:00pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 10:46pm:

It's quite weird for me. The more I hear about these things, the more I want the right to carry a nasty and deadly hand gun to protect myself and others from these insane arseholes.

Yes Aussie - people of high standing in our community such
as lawyers, judges, teachers etc should be able to carry a hand gun with a special license & character test
for use if there is a terrorist or other attack.

I'd feel a lot safer.

Wouldn't kids at school feel safer too?

I mean they see terrorist attacks on TV all the time -
they know they are defenseless.
All school teachers who want to - should be armed & trained to protect our kids.

Any comments?

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Reply #160 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:01pm

double plus good wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

You read social media from the U.S and there's an air of; "I've never invaded Iraq. I don't persecute Muslims. I'm a law abiding, tax paying gun owner. You, the government have failed to protect us. Why should I give up my gun? So some crazy Muslim can get his 72 virgins by killing me and my family in the local shopping centre? Not without a fight douche-bag".

And that doesn't sound a little crazy to you, DPG? The US is a democracy, supposedly, so if the govt has done something it is sanctioned by the people, they voted the polies in, to do their bidding. If you live in a country like the western democracies you cannot say "I didn't" as an excuse when your country does something. You can tell your govt "Not in my name!" but you must still accept responsibility for what you(the people(sic)) have voted for.

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Reply #161 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:04pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:01pm:

double plus good wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

You read social media from the U.S and there's an air of; "I've never invaded Iraq. I don't persecute Muslims. I'm a law abiding, tax paying gun owner. You, the government have failed to protect us. Why should I give up my gun? So some crazy Muslim can get his 72 virgins by killing me and my family in the local shopping centre? Not without a fight douche-bag".

And that doesn't sound a little crazy to you, DPG? The US is a democracy, supposedly, so if the govt has done something it is sanctioned by the people, they voted the polies in, to do their bidding. If you live in a country like the western democracies you cannot say "I didn't" as an excuse when your country does something. You can tell your govt "Not in my name!" but you must still accept responsibility for what you have voted for.

Most people don't have a say in anything Setanta. The people at the top have their own agendas and motives that are beyond the understanding of most battling citizens.

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Reply #162 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

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Reply #163 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:29pm

double plus good wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:01pm:

double plus good wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

You read social media from the U.S and there's an air of; "I've never invaded Iraq. I don't persecute Muslims. I'm a law abiding, tax paying gun owner. You, the government have failed to protect us. Why should I give up my gun? So some crazy Muslim can get his 72 virgins by killing me and my family in the local shopping centre? Not without a fight douche-bag".

And that doesn't sound a little crazy to you, DPG? The US is a democracy, supposedly, so if the govt has done something it is sanctioned by the people, they voted the polies in, to do their bidding. If you live in a country like the western democracies you cannot say "I didn't" as an excuse when your country does something. You can tell your govt "Not in my name!" but you must still accept responsibility for what you have voted for.

Most people don't have a say in anything Setanta. The people at the top have their own agendas and motives that are beyond the understanding of most battling citizens.

If that is the case, why vote? Whether we like it or not, I don't, we are responsible for our govts in democracies.

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Reply #164 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:37pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!

Huh

Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful.
Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06

Yes. I was sacked for not being a christian. Legal discrimination. The reason was, "what would you tell a child when they are having problems with their work on a computer? I would pray with them that they overcome and persevere, what would you do?" A: I would show them what they did wrong, show them ways to find the help they need for the task, help them to understand the software and nomenclature, show them how to overcome their problem.

Nope, we'd rather someone to pray with them.

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