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Reply #135 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:47am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 6:02pm:

cods wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 5:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 5:52pm:

US media have identified one of the suspects as a man named Syed Farook.

Public records show that a man bearing the same name worked as an environmental health specialist for the department that had gathered for the party, and authorities have said they were looking at reports the attack might be linked to a disgruntled employee
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amazing isnt it... did you read about the body armour they were all wearing.. and the guns they were using.. the SAS would have been proud of it..

how bloody disgruntled would you have to be??????...

can we assume it must take a lot of guts to sack someone in America.. Roll Eyes

Disgruntled employees don't return with 2 friends wearing body armour to help shoot the place up.

The Ft Hood terror attack was officially called Workplace violence.
The muslim who beheaded a grandmother and tried to behead another woman before being shot by a boss who got a gun from his car was classed as workplace violence.

The Guns they were using are illegal to own in California which has an assault rifle ban for over 20 years.

let the mistruths fly.

1. there were not 3 gunmen there were 2 (husband wife or partners)
2. There was no body armour worn.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #136 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:48am

issuevoter wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:45am:

Their is an OP-ED in the New York Times, written by Muslim journalist, which states: "Muslims are America's best defense against ISIS."

It is immediate obfuscation in the use a chimera to take the blame; a typical post-atrocity cover for Islam. What he is in fact saying is, "Relax, don't fight us, while we cut your balls off."

A muslim academic said the radicalised youths who kill are just "kids being kids" nothing to see here move on

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Reply #137 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:37am:

This is no more or less terrorism than any other mass shooting is, and frankly it does not really matter what the motivations are in terms of effect.

If guns are easier to get, then it stands to reason it's easier to carry out this sort of attack.

But the State in which this happened has strict gun laws

Not strict enough, though.

It's the same old tune, we need stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws.

There's no end in sight......insanity is doing the same thing over & over hoping for a different outcome!

Why don't you just punish criminals with laws on the books, & treat the mentally deranged...,.,..nothing will stop gun violence completely, but proper education, adequate punishment, & proactive medical treatment which will slow the rate down considerably without destroying the rights of good, law abiding, people.

Isn't it odd, when a terrorist, a criminal, or a crazed gunman shoots & kills people, the first response is to immediately go after the rights of good, law-abiding citizens, the completely innocent overwhelming majority, which never has & never will stop mass murder.......the illegal activity of terrorists, criminals, & the mentally deranged.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #138 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:56am It's called Islamaphobia-phobia ie a phobia of being Islamaphobia
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Reply #139 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:04am

cods wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:35am:

sorry macca I refuse to use the term MUSLIM when it comes to ISIS and the like..

they are just plain BAD PEOPLE>..there is no religion involved in that kind of HATRED....

Muslims are followers of Islam cods, there's no getting away from it. What you're doing is refusing to believe that muslims could ever be violent. There's little point trying to block it out of your mind when there's muslim violence perpertrated around the world in the name of Islam

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Reply #140 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:37am:

This is no more or less terrorism than any other mass shooting is, and frankly it does not really matter what the motivations are in terms of effect.

If guns are easier to get, then it stands to reason it's easier to carry out this sort of attack.

But the State in which this happened has strict gun laws

Not strict enough, though.

The couple has set aside a room to build pipe bombs with thousands of rounds of ammo at the home and in the car

Tough gun laws won't change their ideology or access to weapons

The child that killed a police work in Australia - gun control in Australia did not prevent him from getting a gun

Gun control won't stop all crime, and nobody is suggesting such nonsense.

However, less guns on the street is a good thing.

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Reply #141 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:09am

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:04am:

cods wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:35am:

sorry macca I refuse to use the term MUSLIM when it comes to ISIS and the like..

they are just plain BAD PEOPLE>..there is no religion involved in that kind of HATRED....

Muslims are followers of Islam cods, there's no getting away from it. What you're doing is refusing to believe that muslims could ever be violent. There's little point trying to block it out of your mind when there's muslim violence perpertrated around the world in the name of Islam

Nobody is refusing to believe that Muslims can be violent.

Many people are making excuses for murderers, though.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #142 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:13am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:09am: Nobody is refusing to believe that Muslims can be violent. Many people are making excuses for murderers, though. They are ALL Muslims who directly use Islam and Islamic Laws to encourage and justify murder
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #143 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:18am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am: Gun control won't stop all crime, and nobody is suggesting such nonsense. However, less guns on the street is a good thing. What does "good thing" look like?
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Reply #144 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:27am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

Gun control won't stop all crime, and nobody is suggesting such nonsense.

However, less guns on the street is a good thing.

What does "good thing" look like?

hmmm I'm guessing less than one mass shooting per day maybe?

We’re now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #145 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 12:47pm

These crazy muslims remind me of that old Charles Bronson movie Telefon were the soviets hypnotise a bunch of psychopaths, insert them into American society as sleepers, then for years they just carry on as normal, working, raising a family, doing all the usual normal stuff until one day the soviets make a phone call to them and whisper a secret code word in their ear, then whammo, this wakes them up and they go nuts and embark on a kill crazy rampage.

I think this time though its allah whispering in the psychos ears.

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Reply #146 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

Pickering takes up the microphone again ...

"The word “radicalised” has been injected into the Islam debate specifically to distance the “good” Muslim from the “bad” one. How often does the apologist for Islam say, “... don’t be so racist, I have lovely Muslim friends”? Yesterday’s slaughter was just another instance of Islamic terrorism that proves it's only safe to be a friend of a Muslim if you too are a Muslim.

"One neighbour explains she did not report the activity for fear of being labelled a racist. How well the Left's tags of Islamophobe, racist and bigot are working to increase the terrorists' success rates!

"Farook’s links with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are the worst links imaginable and as long as all Security Agencies continue to take the easy option of appeasement as a solution these senseless killings will continue.

Governments are now locked into weak electorally palatable responses due to multiplying Muslim numbers. If Islamic terrorism was confined to a small group of 20 the authorities would have wiped them out after the first incident, as they would have the KKK".

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Reply #147 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 1:42pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

These crazy muslims remind me of that old Charles Bronson movie Telefon were the soviets hypnotise a bunch of psychopaths, insert them into American society as sleepers, then for years they just carry on as normal, working, raising a family, doing all the usual normal stuff until one day the soviets make a phone call to them and whisper a secret code word in their ear, then whammo, this wakes them up and they go nuts and embark on a kill crazy rampage.

I think this time though its allah whispering in the psychos ears.

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Reply #148 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 2:01pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:45am:

Their is an OP-ED in the New York Times, written by Muslim journalist, which states: "Muslims are America's best defense against ISIS."

It is immediate obfuscation in the use a chimera to take the blame; a typical post-atrocity cover for Islam. What he is in fact saying is, "Relax, don't fight us, while we cut your balls off."

A muslim academic said the radicalised youths who kill are just "kids being kids" nothing to see here move on

"He's not the Mahdi - he's just a very naughty boy!"

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Phemanderac Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3507 Gender:	Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Reply #149 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 2:40pm Of course when stronger gun laws do work, then we have all those lip quivering, self obsessed guns for security blanket needing babies whining like stuck pigs for ever and a day.... Give me a break.
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