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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #15 - Dec 1^st, 2015 at 4:21pm

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 12:38pm:

It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.

Really?

That's news to me.

I've certainly never supported it.

The problem here is, the Right see what they think of as
PC as a brake on their bigoted hate-speech.

And so, as long as it serves that purpose, I've decided I
can live with it.

I call BS. You have never lived without it.

POQ if you've nothing worthwhile to add.

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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #16 - Dec 1^st, 2015 at 4:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 12:38pm:

It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.

Exactly. We righties are totally above politics, we just like to see the right thing done for our country.

As strange as it may seem, what this country needs is a terrorist attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent people take control of our government.

Amen.

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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #17 - Dec 1^st, 2015 at 5:33pm

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 12:38pm:

It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.

Really?

That's news to me.

I've certainly never supported it.

The problem here is, the Right see what they think of as
PC as a brake on their bigoted hate-speech.

And so, as long as it serves that purpose, I've decided I
can live with it.

I call BS. You have never lived without it.

Neither have we, Progressives. We’re just fond of the new political correctness. Don’t worry though. Once we get Mr Abbott back in charge, we’ll have border protection, direct action, national security and good government.

Say what you’ll do and do what you say, Mr Abbott was our most politically correct grown-up yet.

And thank heavens for that.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10277 Gender:	Re: Right wing "political correctness" Reply #18 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:02am It should be noted that the op takes place in an American context, and therefore finding the equivalent in Australia would be close to impossible. Anyway, you go against the mainstream at your own peril.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Right wing "political correctness" Reply #19 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:56am PC is definitely the domain of the comrade leftists......
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Cliff48 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics /> Posts: 2109 Canberra Gender:	Re: Right wing "political correctness" Reply #20 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 5:47am Swagman wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:56am: http://i1.wp.com/www.scriptonitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/003-Scott-B... http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/pc.jpg PC is definitely the domain of the comrade leftists...... yeah..... the libturds tend to rely on BS and lies.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Right wing "political correctness" Reply #21 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 7:59am Cliff48 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 5:47am: yeah..... the libturds tend to rely on BS and lies ...no you're getting confused with the global warming alarmists
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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Right wing "political correctness" Reply #22 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:35pm "Cultural Marxism" Want to spread your ignorance and keep using Neo-Nazi conspiracy theories. Explain to me, a Marxist, how Cultural Marxism even works. This will be interesting because you've actually got to explain an oxymoron.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Right wing "political correctness" Reply #23 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:39pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:35pm: Explain to me, a Marxist I bet you're 'Groucho'
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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #24 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:52pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:35pm:

Explain to me, a Marxist, how Cultural Marxism even works. This will be interesting because you've actually got to explain an oxymoron.

There you go Comrade Kiron22....... Cheesy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cultural+marxism

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TOP DEFINITION
cultural marxism
The gradual process of destroying all traditions, languages, religions, individuality, government, family, law and order in order to re-assemble society in the future as a communist utopia. This utopia will have no notion of gender, traditions, morality, god or even family or the state. The Philosophy was proven not to Work already by Vladimir Lenin as he tried in vein to control and subjugate the people. He admitted before he died that capitalism was the only true system in which people understand how to live with each other.... Lenin knew that there were a few western Idiots who kept spreading the communist ideas long after Lenin gave up.... he called these people useful idiots [ Grin

as they had more emotion than brains and could be used to subvert the western states for a military takeover in the future as the citizens would already be perverted and sick and weak from poisonous ideas, decadent lusts and mindless entertainment.
cultural marxism: "everything is relative man".... "there is no truth".... "reality is what we make of it".... smoke dope and drop out dude!!! .... we don't need money... cops are violent pigs (especially the white ones). Women are smarter and betteer than men, all men are rapists. "get in touch with your feelings".... "if it feels good then do it"... "she so empowered!!... you go girl!!"... "there is no god"... "Let's burn the bible" "don't criticize islam!!"... "you're a bigot" "a homophobe" "you're an agist classist pig"..... "think globally act locally".... "save the whales.. the trees... the poor african kids!!".... "drop out of school and rebell against your parents".... "Dad's are scum.... mum's are cool".... "go vegetarian" "the ufo's are comming!!" .... "don't teach kids math's and reading!!!!!..... you elitist pig!!!.... they need to learn to build a veggie patch and learn to recycle and wear gender nuetral clothes!!!" "we can all eat other's cuisines and enjoy each others religions from every nation in one smelting pot of peoples and get along together and intermarry"
by Politically incorrect guy. January 02, 2014

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Reply #25 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 1:03pm

Literally makes no sense using Marxist analytics or social theory, under Marxism, culture is defined by the material interactions that people have with the physical world and economic base, you can't use "culture" to bring about a Communist society, it literally makes no sense since Marxism is an analytical tool in examining base-superstructure.

"Cultural Marxism" is a retarded right wing conspiracy theory that doesn't even understand incredibly basic philosophy or sociology.

Lenin never used the term "useful idiots" it was actually coined by Mises.

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Reply #26 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 3:05pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:35pm:

Explain to me, a Marxist, how Cultural Marxism even works. This will be interesting because you've actually got to explain an oxymoron.

There you go Comrade Kiron22....... Cheesy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cultural+marxism

Quote:

TOP DEFINITION
cultural marxism
The gradual process of destroying all traditions, languages, religions, individuality, government, family, law and order in order to re-assemble society in the future as a communist utopia. This utopia will have no notion of gender, traditions, morality, god or even family or the state. The Philosophy was proven not to Work already by Vladimir Lenin as he tried in vein to control and subjugate the people. He admitted before he died that capitalism was the only true system in which people understand how to live with each other.... Lenin knew that there were a few western Idiots who kept spreading the communist ideas long after Lenin gave up.... he called these people useful idiots [ Grin

as they had more emotion than brains and could be used to subvert the western states for a military takeover in the future as the citizens would already be perverted and sick and weak from poisonous ideas, decadent lusts and mindless entertainment.
cultural marxism: "everything is relative man".... "there is no truth".... "reality is what we make of it".... smoke dope and drop out dude!!! .... we don't need money... cops are violent pigs (especially the white ones). Women are smarter and betteer than men, all men are rapists. "get in touch with your feelings".... "if it feels good then do it"... "she so empowered!!... you go girl!!"... "there is no god"... "Let's burn the bible" "don't criticize islam!!"... "you're a bigot" "a homophobe" "you're an agist classist pig"..... "think globally act locally".... "save the whales.. the trees... the poor african kids!!".... "drop out of school and rebell against your parents".... "Dad's are scum.... mum's are cool".... "go vegetarian" "the ufo's are comming!!" .... "don't teach kids math's and reading!!!!!..... you elitist pig!!!.... they need to learn to build a veggie patch and learn to recycle and wear gender nuetral clothes!!!" "we can all eat other's cuisines and enjoy each others religions from every nation in one smelting pot of peoples and get along together and intermarry"
by Politically incorrect guy. January 02, 2014

No no, Swagman, you just said. It's all about totalitarian ideologies, single factor explanations of history and declaring certain groups virtuous and others evil.

You know, getting rid of civil rights and citizenship, the clash of civilizations (the end-point of history), and declaring Team Australia and the Death Cult.

PC gone mad, eh?

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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #27 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 3:21pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 12:50pm:

No it isn't. Right wingers are often criticized but not outright attacked. You find that violent hate mobs online are almost always exclusively right wing and male dominated.

Compare the two "Tech ethics" subs on Reddit, the left wing Ghazi and the right wing KiA. KiA has been implicated in recent shootings at BLM protesters and is being investigated by the FBI, Ghazi is a very mature community where information has sources and rare aggressive violent behavior (from left wingers) is moderated and they are banned.

Look at Youtube, compare two popular channels say the left wing Tooltime to the right wing Sargon of Akkad.

Sargon of Akkad doxxes people (releases their home/work details) is incredibly aggressive, calls minorities "Sp*cs", "N*ggers" etc etc, engages in outright quote mining and editing of footage to make it look like people said something they didn't say. Sargon of Akkad has hundreds of thousands of right wing subscribers on Youtube.

Tooltime another large channel sources all his information to journals, has studied psychology and philosophy, is incredibly polite to people in his comment sections and tries to foment real discussion on issues.

Censorship online and largely in the media is generally the domain as the right, as the appeal to status quo is easy and people don't like to be criticized.

How about how that SBS reporter lost his job for decrying the absolute jingoistic disgrace ANZAC day has become. Yet Bolt still denies the Stolen Generation happened and nothing happens to him.

Do you know just how stupid and bigoted you sound when you make foolish statements like those?

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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #28 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 3:23pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 1:03pm:

"Cultural Marxism" is a retarded right wing conspiracy theory that doesn't even understand incredibly basic philosophy or sociology.

It's an entry on Wikipedia. No one actually calls themselves a cultural Marxist. The point of Marxism is economic determinism.

The closest anything comes to such a term is the Western European communists of the 60s and 70s - Reformist parliamentary Marxists like Gramsci. It was a reaction to the Soviet, Trotskyist and Maoist parties and factions of the past.

It lasted for about 5 minutes. These Marxists were essentially social democrats, which is where they all went: absorbed into the labour and social democratic parties, and later, the Greens. The rest gave up politics altogether, moving into various local struggles: the Green Bans in Sydney, environmentalism, prison reform, women's groups and feminism.

"Cultural" Marxism is contradiction in terms. It is, indeed, a retarded conspiracy theory that doesn't exist and never really has.

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Re: Right wing "political correctness"
Reply #29 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 3:26pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 3:21pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 12:50pm:

No it isn't. Right wingers are often criticized but not outright attacked. You find that violent hate mobs online are almost always exclusively right wing and male dominated.

Compare the two "Tech ethics" subs on Reddit, the left wing Ghazi and the right wing KiA. KiA has been implicated in recent shootings at BLM protesters and is being investigated by the FBI, Ghazi is a very mature community where information has sources and rare aggressive violent behavior (from left wingers) is moderated and they are banned.

Look at Youtube, compare two popular channels say the left wing Tooltime to the right wing Sargon of Akkad.

Sargon of Akkad doxxes people (releases their home/work details) is incredibly aggressive, calls minorities "Sp*cs", "N*ggers" etc etc, engages in outright quote mining and editing of footage to make it look like people said something they didn't say. Sargon of Akkad has hundreds of thousands of right wing subscribers on Youtube.

Tooltime another large channel sources all his information to journals, has studied psychology and philosophy, is incredibly polite to people in his comment sections and tries to foment real discussion on issues.

Censorship online and largely in the media is generally the domain as the right, as the appeal to status quo is easy and people don't like to be criticized.

How about how that SBS reporter lost his job for decrying the absolute jingoistic disgrace ANZAC day has become. Yet Bolt still denies the Stolen Generation happened and nothing happens to him.

Do you know just how stupid and bigoted you sound when you make foolish statements like those?

Not you, Maria. He was probably referring to Longy.

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