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Reply #45 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:19pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:11am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

That's ignorant.

It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion.

It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam.

The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion.

What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.

Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms.

And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia.

And who decides whether a criticism is 'informed'?

Muslims.

You are aliens, pal.

No criticism of Islam is 'Islamophobic'. It's criticism. Being critical is not a symptom of phobia.

"Islamophobia" is criticism of Islam that Muslims do not like to hear and/or cannot refute. 'Islamophobia' is pertinent criticism of Islam - that's why you want to shut it down.

Well, sweeping the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group of intelectual retards is a pretty big clue.

Let's play spot the contradiction.

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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #46 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:21pm

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:03pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."

muslims cause islamophobia

Islamophobes cause Islamophobia.

"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims.

"An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."

So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia.

No. Any kind of prejudice is Islamophobia.

SO it is not permitted to widely consider an ideology and then completely reject it?

Oh, old boy, you are a silly. You don’t just reject Islam for yourself, you want it banned, killed, carpetbombed and nuked. You know what you are, old chap?

You’re a liberal.

You might not agree with what the Muselman has to say, but you’d fight to the death for his right to not be offended, no?

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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #47 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:24pm

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:11am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

That's ignorant.

It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion.

It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam.

The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion.

What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.

Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism.

It is, FD.

But it is still a jolly world.

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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #48 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 3:19pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:11am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

That's ignorant.

It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion.

It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam.

The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion.

What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.

Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism.

It is, FD.

But it is still a jolly world.

But give credit K - that statement's been revised from "someone once said all criticism of Islam is based on racism". FD won't admit to misquoting someone - but at least he will quietly correct the record when he's been exposed.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #49 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 3:22pm

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:11am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

That's ignorant.

It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion.

It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam.

The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion.

What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.

Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms.

And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia.

And who decides whether a criticism is 'informed'?

Muslims.

You are aliens, pal.

No criticism of Islam is 'Islamophobic'. It's criticism. Being critical is not a symptom of phobia.

"Islamophobia" is criticism of Islam that Muslims do not like to hear and/or cannot refute. 'Islamophobia' is pertinent criticism of Islam - that's why you want to shut it down.

Well, sweeping the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group of intelectual retards is a pretty big clue.

Let's play spot the contradiction.

Do you see anything racist in moses' argument FD? You still haven't said.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50549 At my desk.	Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ... Reply #50 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 3:42pm Not that I recall.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ... Reply #51 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:54am Me neither.
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Reply #52 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:08am

If you see something, say something.

Except - if it's Muslims. Following the murder of 14 people by an Islamic couple in San Bernardino:
A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people.

If you see some Muslims behaving suspiciously, hug them., lest they accuse you of a backlash due to Paris, London, San Bernardino, etc.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ... Reply #53 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:15am Fear not S - the blonde beast will surely rise again. And rest assured people will be arrested for looking muslim - as it should be.
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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #54 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 10:04am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Fear not S - the blonde beast will surely rise again. And rest assured people will be arrested for looking muslim - as it should be.

Precisely.

You said that in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the Cronulla Riots, didn't you?

It stopped Our Girls getting harassed on the beaches by gangs of Muslim youths - something the police didn't do despite YEARS of receiving complaints.

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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #55 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 10:41am

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

If you see something, say something.

Except - if it's Muslims. Following the murder of 14 people by an Islamic couple in San Bernardino:
A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people.

If you see some Muslims behaving suspiciously, hug them., lest they accuse you of a backlash due to Paris, London, San Bernardino, etc.

How is "being in the area" suspicious?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ... Reply #56 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 11:58am greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:32pm: A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though. Did you get a knock back? And heeeeeere's Rick from the Young Ones. That's Rick with a silent P. So you. Spot on.
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Re: Sydney's Muslims are Victims ...
Reply #57 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 12:06pm

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though.

Did you get a knock back?

And heeeeeere's Rick from the Young Ones. That's Rick with a silent P.
So you. Spot on.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/greggerypeccary.jpg

I knew you'd like that one, Soren.

I look forward to hearing more, when you send your next PM.

So, back to the question: how is "being in the area" suspicious?

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Reply #58 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though.

Did you get a knock back?

And heeeeeere's Rick from the Young Ones. That's Rick with a silent P.
So you. Spot on.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/greggerypeccary.jpg

I knew you'd like that one, Soren.

I look forward to hearing more, when you send your next PM.

So, back to the question: how is "being in the area" suspicious?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/8c/fe/cc8cfef92fcf0658510411cde0e1e...

Just look like this - suspicious AND ridiculous.

Or like this 'UK' (ie Paki) policeman who sued his fellow policemen for laffing at his beard.

Can you respect that beard? Can you regard that guy as 'just like you'??

Can you, Rick with a silent P??

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