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Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:29pm

Hi Guys, have any of you had any experience with SSDs (Solid State Drives) to replace your HDDs (Hard Disk Drives)

My Toshiba Laptop (An I7 with max RAM) is a bit overloaded with software and is starting to run slow on occasions, HDD has about 70Gb free of 320Gb and runs at 100% for an extended period on boot up, and is frustratingly slow on other occasions.

I have decided to replace my 320Gb HDD with a 480Gb SSD. I did consider the Hybrid drive but thought the SSD would be better

Interested in your thoughts!

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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #1 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:38pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:

Hi Guys, have any of you had any experience with SSDs (Solid State Drives) to replace your HDDs (Hard Disk Drives)

My Toshiba Laptop (An I7 with max RAM) is a bit overloaded with software and is starting to run slow on occasions, HDD has about 70Gb free of 320Gb and runs at 100% for an extended period on boot up, and is frustratingly slow on other occasions.

I have decided to replace my 320Gb HDD with a 480Gb SSD. I did consider the Hybrid drive but thought the SSD would be better

Interested in your thoughts!

In the early days of SSD's I had some problems but got there in the end.

First I would say that it is not real likely that the HDD is the problem causing speed issues if there is that much free space.

The speed problems will likely relate to how many things are running at the same time. maybe have a look at fault logs, if the current HDD is failing that is a different thing.

The thing I found with the early SSD's is that when installing the OS like windows you had to do the press F8 option to install other devices and then load the SSD driver or it would not be recognised by the system. I suspect that this has been overcome and most recent laptops recognise this type of drive now.

I still think that SSD drives are less reliable than normal drives overall but the gap in now narrow.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 22991 ACT Gender:	Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD Reply #2 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:48pm bugger! I have ordered one so its a bit late now. I was looking for more space and speed but couldnt afford the 960Gb I will keep you informed. LOL!
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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #3 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:13pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:

Hi Guys, have any of you had any experience with SSDs (Solid State Drives) to replace your HDDs (Hard Disk Drives)

My Toshiba Laptop (An I7 with max RAM) is a bit overloaded with software and is starting to run slow on occasions, HDD has about 70Gb free of 320Gb and runs at 100% for an extended period on boot up, and is frustratingly slow on other occasions.

I have decided to replace my 320Gb HDD with a 480Gb SSD. I did consider the Hybrid drive but thought the SSD would be better

Interested in your thoughts!

In the early days of SSD's I had some problems but got there in the end.

First I would say that it is not real likely that the HDD is the problem causing speed issues if there is that much free space.

The speed problems will likely relate to how many things are running at the same time. maybe have a look at fault logs, if the current HDD is failing that is a different thing.

The thing I found with the early SSD's is that when installing the OS like windows you had to do the press F8 option to install other devices and then load the SSD driver or it would not be recognised by the system. I suspect that this has been overcome and most recent laptops recognise this type of drive now.

I still think that SSD drives are less reliable than normal drives overall but the gap in now narrow.

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I still think that SSD drives are less reliable than normal drives overall but the gap in now narrow.

that's surprising. Still, HDDs are very good.
I defrag mine often using prirform defragger and use piriform Ccleaner too.

they seem good.

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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #4 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:31pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

bugger!

I have ordered one so its a bit late now. I was looking for more space and speed but couldnt afford the 960Gb

I will keep you informed.

LOL! Grin

I have one, but I have little more than the OS loaded on it. It's only 128gb.

Booting up used to take a few minutes, it's now maybe 20 seconds.

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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #5 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:39pm

... wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:31pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

bugger!

I have ordered one so its a bit late now. I was looking for more space and speed but couldnt afford the 960Gb

I will keep you informed.

LOL! Grin

I have one, but I have little more than the OS loaded on it. It's only 128gb.

Booting up used to take a few minutes, it's now maybe 20 seconds.

Well boot up pisses me right off, so that might be a positive if nothing else!

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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #6 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:45pm

I also have a Toshiba laptop, i7, must be 3-4 years old now (?). It came with a heap of Toshiba crap that takes up a LOT of space, so I uninstalled a lot of it. Searched first to make sure it wouldn't blow the laptop up. The Laptop runs Win 7.

This Desktop "games machine" that I had built by J & W computers in Sydney has an SSD drive (and 32.0 GB RAM). Got it maybe 2 years ago?

I prefer the Desktop, even though it has Win 8.1 to the Laptop.

Haven't answered your question, Red, but I have "contributed". Grin

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 22991 ACT Gender:	Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD Reply #7 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:51pm Well done Nef, I have wondered about going back to a purpose built desktop, but mine is a great laptop, I think I need a gamer spec'd laptop even thogh I dont do gaming at all. I guess its why I still drive a thirsty v8 ( Not A 10year old BMW though Lisa), I like a bit of oomph! Cheers
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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #8 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:03pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

bugger!

I have ordered one so its a bit late now. I was looking for more space and speed but couldnt afford the 960Gb

I will keep you informed.

LOL! Grin

They are a lot faster so you will get speed particularly with booting and if you need to install the driver it isn't difficult and the driver should come with the drive. If you remember windows installs it is where it asks if you need to install additional drivers like a sccsi drive - same thing.

It will be faster but what I meant is that the old drive is probably not the current speed bottleneck unless it is failing.

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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #9 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:08pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:

Hi Guys, have any of you had any experience with SSDs (Solid State Drives) to replace your HDDs (Hard Disk Drives)

My Toshiba Laptop (An I7 with max RAM) is a bit overloaded with software and is starting to run slow on occasions, HDD has about 70Gb free of 320Gb and runs at 100% for an extended period on boot up, and is frustratingly slow on other occasions.

I have decided to replace my 320Gb HDD with a 480Gb SSD. I did consider the Hybrid drive but thought the SSD would be better

Interested in your thoughts!

In the early days of SSD's I had some problems but got there in the end.

First I would say that it is not real likely that the HDD is the problem causing speed issues if there is that much free space.

The speed problems will likely relate to how many things are running at the same time. maybe have a look at fault logs, if the current HDD is failing that is a different thing.

The thing I found with the early SSD's is that when installing the OS like windows you had to do the press F8 option to install other devices and then load the SSD driver or it would not be recognised by the system. I suspect that this has been overcome and most recent laptops recognise this type of drive now.

I still think that SSD drives are less reliable than normal drives overall but the gap in now narrow.

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I still think that SSD drives are less reliable than normal drives overall but the gap in now narrow.

that's surprising. Still, HDDs are very good.
I defrag mine often using prirform defragger and use piriform Ccleaner too.

they seem good.

I would not do that with a SSD as its lifetime is governed by the number of reads and writes. They get extra life out of them not by making them better so much as by providing redundancy. as a sector fails it is replaced. The drive effectively has twice the space it's attributed in capacity in order to extend its life.

i.e A 1T drive would actually be a 2T drive with a spare T up its sleeve or that is what they were doing about 15 months ago..

Defragging one of these serves no purpose other than to prematurely wear it out.

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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #10 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:

It will be faster but what I meant is that the old drive is probably not the current speed bottleneck unless it is failing.

I totally understand regarding the HDD, its fine, regarding startup, I have removed everything I can using a startup manager and uninstalled lots of crap but its still a pita at times so I thought I would try this.

Unfortunately the ram is limited on the laptop even though I have the max 8gb I think it is

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 117423 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD Reply #11 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:19pm See this: http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid-state-drive-without-rein...
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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #12 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:32pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

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I would not do that with a SSD as its lifetime is governed by the number of reads and writes. They get extra life out of them not by making them better so much as by providing redundancy. as a sector fails it is replaced. The drive effectively has twice the space it's attributed in capacity in order to extend its life.

i.e A 1T drive would actually be a 2T drive with a spare T up its sleeve or that is what they were doing about 15 months ago..

Defragging one of these serves no purpose other than to prematurely wear it out.

thanks dna, I was unaware of the failure of those.
Yes, defragging would be pointless.

This ASUS has a sleep setting, so it starts quickly.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 22991 ACT Gender:	Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD Reply #13 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:34pm Thanks lads, you have all done very well ! Mr Grace
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Re: Upgrading my laptop HDD to a SSD
Reply #14 - Dec 1^st, 2015 at 2:06pm

While it is true that SSDs have a limited number of reads and writes, for modern drives you would need to write between 6-10 TB of data a day to have them reach the limit within 10 years.

SSDs are considerably faster spinning disks and for large reading and writing tasks make quite the difference.

I have a series of 3 in raid0

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