Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Basically, if you asked him to expand on the point he was making he would quickly stop talking unless it was about subjugation of fellow man of course

Soren sees what Soren wants to see. As scientific as Booby.

You simply have no argument, only swivel eyes.


What IS the average global temperature?



WHAT IS THE AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE NOW?
Climatologists prefer to combine short-term weather records into long-term periods (typically 30 years) when they analyze climate, including global averages. Between 1961 and 1990, the annual average temperature for the globe was around 57.2°F , according to the World Meteorological Organization.

In addition, we can evaluate climate over longer periods of observation. For example, in 2014, the global temperature was 1.24°F (0.69°C) above the long-term average for the 20th century, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. That number made 2014 the warmest year on record in the NOAA database, which goes back to 1880.
https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/what-average-global-temperature-now



14 degrees celsius.

And 'average global temperature' is not uniform. That's why the Antarctic has more ice than ever while the arctic doesn't.

ANyway, data that goes back to 1880 is weather data, not climate. 

The truth of it is that NOBODY fully understand something as complex as global climate. Models are based on assumptions, many of them political rather than scientific.

Energy efficiency is a good thing. But remember, kids, fossil fuels - coal, oil, gas - are nothing but solar energy captured by vegetation over millions of years. The energy you get from burning fossil fuels is a million year old sunshine.


That's a very nice thought - fossil fuels unlock the sunshine that warmed the dinosaurs.i

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:


Burning what so fast??

{sigh} fossil fuels.

Plonker, eh? That because you can’t work it out?

Be a good idea to slow down burning of fossil fuels, plonker, so atmospheric CO

2

doesn’t go over 400ppm, don’t get 2°C hotter.

All the debates you have attempted, plonker, to be part of you should know that. I still remember, and laugh, plonker, about those temperature projections from the high point of the 1998 El Nino 

China has hundreds of millions of people to bring out of dire poverty. It is also building non fossil fuel energy.

I imagine the Chinese govt has seen the retreat of the Himalayan glaciers that supply the meltwater to seven of the worlds biggest river that water one quarter of the world population and is now moving to reducing first the density of its CO₂ emissions and then the total amount.

Try doing a bit of reading. I know—your lips get tired.