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Is 2 Degrees Heating Acceptable? (Read 7314 times)
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Re: Is 2 Degrees Heating Acceptable?
Reply #75 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:02pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:20pm:
Soren doesn’t understand physics, mathematics or common sense.

When temperatures increase with time, as they are, extreme temperatures increase by a lot more than the average increase and stays there for longer.

For the same reason a small increase in sea level can see more and bigger floods.

So his stupid Eiffel tower fable means Jack Schidt!

Basically, if you asked him to expand on the point he was making he would quickly stop talking unless it was about subjugation of fellow man of course Shocked Shocked
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Reply #76 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 9:57pm
 
We can see that you cannot refute the point, clowns.

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Reply #77 - Dec 2nd, 2015 at 4:15am
 
Soren sees what Soren wants to see. As scientific as Booby.
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Reply #78 - Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:38pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 9:57pm:
We can see that you cannot refute the point, clowns.


You calling me your keffer  Huh Huh ?
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Reply #79 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:13pm
 
You simply have no argument, only swivel eyes.


What IS the average global temperature?



WHAT IS THE AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE NOW?
Climatologists prefer to combine short-term weather records into long-term periods (typically 30 years) when they analyze climate, including global averages. Between 1961 and 1990, the annual average temperature for the globe was around 57.2°F
(14.0°C)
, according to the World Meteorological Organization.

In addition, we can evaluate climate over longer periods of observation. For example, in 2014, the global temperature was 1.24°F (0.69°C) above the long-term average for the 20th century, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. That number made 2014 the warmest year on record in the NOAA database, which goes back to 1880.
https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/what-average-global-temperature-now



14 degrees celsius.

And 'average global temperature' is not uniform. That's why the Antarctic has more ice than ever while the arctic doesn't.

ANyway, data that goes back to 1880 is weather data, not climate. 

The truth of it is that NOBODY fully understand something as complex as global climate. Models are based on assumptions, many of them political rather than scientific.

Energy efficiency is a good thing. But remember, kids, fossil fuels - coal, oil, gas - are nothing but solar energy captured by vegetation over millions of years. The energy you get from burning fossil fuels is a million year old sunshine.


That's a very nice thought - fossil fuels unlock the sunshine that warmed the dinosaurs.i

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Reply #80 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:21pm
 
Problem is—we are burning them so fast!
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Re: Is 2 Degrees Heating Acceptable?
Reply #81 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:21pm:
Problem is—we are burning them so fast!


Burning what so fast??
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Reply #82 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:54pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:21pm:
Problem is—we are burning them so fast!


Burning what so fast??


Monk's baking bread efforts.   Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #83 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:05pm
 
{sigh} fossil fuels.
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Reply #84 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:41pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:21pm:
Problem is—we are burning them so fast!



What is the 'correct' rate of burning them, plonker?

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Reply #85 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:38pm
 
Plonker, eh? That because you can’t work it out?

Be a good idea to slow down burning of fossil fuels, plonker, so atmospheric CO
2
doesn’t go over 400ppm, don’t get 2°C hotter.

All the debates you have attempted, plonker, to be part of you should know that. I still remember, and laugh, plonker, about those temperature projections from the high point of the 1998 El Nino  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Is 2 Degrees Heating Acceptable?
Reply #86 - Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:35pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:38pm:
Be a good idea to slow down burning of fossil fuels, plonker, so atmospheric CO2
doesn’t go over 400ppm, don’t get 2°C hotter.



It has already been 400ppm, China is building another 1100 odd coal fired power stations.

'China is building 368 plants and planning a further 803, according to the study by four climate change research bodies, including Ecofys and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.'

The Times, 2 December 2015
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Reply #87 - Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:10am
 
China has hundreds of millions of people to bring out of dire poverty. It is also building non fossil fuel energy.

I imagine the Chinese govt has seen the retreat of the Himalayan glaciers that supply the meltwater to seven of the worlds biggest river that water one quarter of the world population and is now moving to reducing first the density of its CO2 emissions and then the total amount.
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Re: Is 2 Degrees Heating Acceptable?
Reply #88 - Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:03am
 
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China has hundreds of millions of people to bring out of dire poverty. It is also building non fossil fuel energy.

I imagine the Chinese govt has seen the retreat of the Himalayan glaciers that supply the meltwater to seven of the worlds biggest river that water one quarter of the world population and is now moving to reducing first the density of its CO2 emissions and then the total amount.


Yeah...you imagine. Stop making this sh1te up will you.
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Reply #89 - Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:39am
 
Try doing a bit of reading. I know—your lips get tired.
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