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Reply #30 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:26am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:59am:
I think Turnbull will be PM for a long time, maybe even into his seventies.
Reasons
1 he has already achieved all there is to achieve in business now it's about the power.
2 he is a middle ground progressive that appeals to the swinging voter.
3 no mater how bad the Economy gets he will be perceived to be better able to manage it than Shorten.
4 Shorten is opposition leader.
5 the electorate are not yet ready to trust Labor again. The only reason the polls favoured Labor for the past two years is that the electorate hated Abbott more than any other Labor alternative.
Labors only hope is to dump Shorten, but o be honest short of rolling out Bob Hawke as his replacement I can't see anyone of the current Labor nob appealing to the electorate. That's not my personal opinion, I happen to believe Pliberseck, Bowen or Wong, if she took a lower house seat, could be good PMs, but it won't happen before the next election. I also don't know if Labor will risk another female given the attacks by the conservative media against Gillard.

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Reply #31 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:28am
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:59am:
What this more likely means is that the media likes Turnbull so much they are willing to give him a free ride for several years.

Turnbull, face of the biggest infrastructure disaster in Australian history, still hasn't had to answer any questions on his role in destroying the NBN.

The media eat each other: the NBN is an election issue whether Lib supporting media like it or not as there is nothing else to talk about except terrorism and they know people will get bored of reading that every page.
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Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM?
Reply #32 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:36am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:26am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:59am:
I think Turnbull will be PM for a long time, maybe even into his seventies.
Reasons
1 he has already achieved all there is to achieve in business now it's about the power.
2 he is a middle ground progressive that appeals to the swinging voter.
3 no mater how bad the Economy gets he will be perceived to be better able to manage it than Shorten.
4 Shorten is opposition leader.
5 the electorate are not yet ready to trust Labor again. The only reason the polls favoured Labor for the past two years is that the electorate hated Abbott more than any other Labor alternative.
Labors only hope is to dump Shorten, but o be honest short of rolling out Bob Hawke as his replacement I can't see anyone of the current Labor nob appealing to the electorate. That's not my personal opinion, I happen to believe Pliberseck, Bowen or Wong, if she took a lower house seat, could be good PMs, but it won't happen before the next election. I also don't know if Labor will risk another female given the attacks by the conservative media against Gillard.

Like what?

Business people aim to make money, he's made zillions.
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Reply #33 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:40am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:36am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:26am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:59am:
I think Turnbull will be PM for a long time, maybe even into his seventies.
Reasons
1 he has already achieved all there is to achieve in business now it's about the power.
2 he is a middle ground progressive that appeals to the swinging voter.
3 no mater how bad the Economy gets he will be perceived to be better able to manage it than Shorten.
4 Shorten is opposition leader.
5 the electorate are not yet ready to trust Labor again. The only reason the polls favoured Labor for the past two years is that the electorate hated Abbott more than any other Labor alternative.
Labors only hope is to dump Shorten, but o be honest short of rolling out Bob Hawke as his replacement I can't see anyone of the current Labor nob appealing to the electorate. That's not my personal opinion, I happen to believe Pliberseck, Bowen or Wong, if she took a lower house seat, could be good PMs, but it won't happen before the next election. I also don't know if Labor will risk another female given the attacks by the conservative media against Gillard.

Like what?

Business people aim to make money, he's made zillions.

How did he make his zillions?

Grin Grin

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Reply #34 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 1:12pm
 
There you are you see. Moderation in all things.
SkyNews:
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has vowed he won't take a 'slash and burn' approach to public spending, ahead of next month's budget update.
Speaking to the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, the prime minister also rejected dramatic tax hikes as a solution to the budget deficit. He also warned states and territories that meaningful reform on health and education funding will require their full and genuine involvement on both structural and funding issues.
Speaking to business leaders, he said all Australia's governments needed to work together to get their own houses in order. He said sale of commodities would no longer do it for Australia over the next decade.
Mr Turnbull and state premiers and territory chief ministers sit down at the Council of Australian Governments meeting on December 11 with a new dialogue on economic reform 'the critical and leading item on that agenda'.All economic reform options remain on the table and imaginative reform was needed at federal and state levels, he said. 'Meaningful reform to address health and education funding will require a full and genuine buy-in from the states on both the structural and revenue-raising issues,' he told the Australian Chamber Business Leaders annual dinner.
Mr Turnbull said the budget had been in deficit since 2008, so some might say 'let's just go ahead and reduce the deficit by raising taxes'.But tax reform wasn't an end in itself and the tax system needed to be a catalyst of higher economic growth and should be the servant of the economy and its people and their businesses, not the other way round.
He said the government was examining personal tax particularly carefully.'As the average wage earner moves into the second highest tax bracket there is a very real risk that current tax settings will unduly discourage participation, effort and innovation,' he said. Mr Turnbull said tax reform was a complex exercise and the government had insisted all options, even the unlikely, should remain on the table.
But ruling options in or out, as Labor had done, soon left no options at all before there was a proper review.
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Reply #35 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 2:07pm
 
Kat wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 8:53am:
Never.

Certainly not if he doesn't dump the austerity bullsh1t, dump the far-right, and pull the party
back to the centre-right. Which it hasn't been since Howard took over.

The far-right are destroying both the Party and the country.

Talksbull MUST distance himself from them and their filthy policies, or he WILL sink with them.


Got it. He won't because he's in the wrong political party according to you.
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Reply #36 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 2:26pm
 
Anyone flirting with the idea of voting for Turnbull, consider balancing the conservative agenda of the coalition by giving The Greens control of the Senate.

This will weaken the conservatives further so not to risk them assassinating Turnbull, if he forms government after the election.
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Reply #37 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 2:28pm
 
Kat wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 8:53am:
Never.

Certainly not if he doesn't dump the austerity bullsh1t, dump the far-right, and pull the party
back to the centre-right. Which it hasn't been since Howard took over.

The far-right are destroying both the Party and the country.

Talksbull MUST distance himself from them and their filthy policies, or he WILL sink with them.


Grin Grin Grin

Tell us what you really think, Kat! Don't hide behind PC euphemisms.

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Meeeanwhile ... unfortunately for Turnbull, he has not one, not two, but THREE heavy hitters on his front bench who will be looking for the top position before too long.

And it'll be a case of "Don't cry for me Argentina" when he himself gets stabbed in the back if he should stumble and fall on any policy issues that the public really cares about.

Julie Bishop

Scott Morrison

Peter Dutton

All capable alternatives to prissy, anal-retentive, please-all-the-people-all-of-the-time Malcolm Turnbull.



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Reply #38 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 2:34pm
 
Turdball will lead the liberals for a considerably shorter period than Abbott.
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Reply #39 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 2:45pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 1:12pm:
Mr Turnbull and state premiers and territory chief ministers sit down at the Council of Australian Governments meeting on December 11 with a new dialogue on economic reform 'the critical and leading item on that agenda'.All economic reform options remain on the table and imaginative reform was needed at federal and state levels, he said. 'Meaningful reform to address health and education funding will require a full and genuine buy-in from the states on both the structural and revenue-raising issues,' he told the Australian Chamber Business Leaders annual dinner.


What a nice way of saying privatize hospitals, schools and other social services.

This is what makes Turnbull dangerous, the media isn't doing any analysis of what he is saying and what is actually happening, so the media is basically just acting as a PR arm for him at the moment.

It should not be ignored that Morriscum is pushing the wide-scale privatization of all social services and quite openly I implore anyone to actually look at what is happening in the real world compared to the political spin of Turnbull.
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Reply #40 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 3:16pm
 
Turnbull our longest serving PM?

the last time the retards made this prediction they lost the PM before he'd served a full year.  If that's a sign of whats to come, Turnbull is finished in another year ...  when the election is due

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Reply #41 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 3:39pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:40am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:36am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:26am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:59am:
I think Turnbull will be PM for a long time, maybe even into his seventies.
Reasons
1 he has already achieved all there is to achieve in business now it's about the power.
2 he is a middle ground progressive that appeals to the swinging voter.
3 no mater how bad the Economy gets he will be perceived to be better able to manage it than Shorten.
4 Shorten is opposition leader.
5 the electorate are not yet ready to trust Labor again. The only reason the polls favoured Labor for the past two years is that the electorate hated Abbott more than any other Labor alternative.
Labors only hope is to dump Shorten, but o be honest short of rolling out Bob Hawke as his replacement I can't see anyone of the current Labor nob appealing to the electorate. That's not my personal opinion, I happen to believe Pliberseck, Bowen or Wong, if she took a lower house seat, could be good PMs, but it won't happen before the next election. I also don't know if Labor will risk another female given the attacks by the conservative media against Gillard.

Like what?

Business people aim to make money, he's made zillions.

How did he make his zillions?

Grin Grin



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Reply #42 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 3:40pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 2:28pm:
Kat wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 8:53am:
Never.

Certainly not if he doesn't dump the austerity bullsh1t, dump the far-right, and pull the party
back to the centre-right. Which it hasn't been since Howard took over.

The far-right are destroying both the Party and the country.

Talksbull MUST distance himself from them and their filthy policies, or he WILL sink with them.


Grin Grin Grin

Tell us what you really think, Kat! Don't hide behind PC euphemisms.

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Meeeanwhile ... unfortunately for Turnbull, he has not one, not two, but THREE heavy hitters on his front bench who will be looking for the top position before too long.

And it'll be a case of "Don't cry for me Argentina" when he himself gets stabbed in the back if he should stumble and fall on any policy issues that the public really cares about.

Julie Bishop

Scott Morrison

Peter Dutton

All capable alternatives to prissy, anal-retentive, please-all-the-people-all-of-the-time Malcolm Turnbull.





Yes, Herbie, but why isn't Mr Abbott on your list?

You tell me that.
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Reply #43 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 3:41pm
 
Business investment plunged by 9% last period. Liberals can’t manage the economy, that is plain.

Neoconservatism is why we are sinking into the mire.

John Useless Howard started the rot.

Forget boosting&broadening the GST, think stimulus. Get rid of all the Tax Expenditures, boost NewStart, run out the real NBN, do more infrastructure work.
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Reply #44 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 6:54pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Yes, Herbie, but why isn't Mr Abbott on your list?

You tell me that.


Abbott has no more heart for the fight. He's all washed up. He's getting ready to become a professional speaker at business functions while working on his autobiography. 

One reason he's through with the political game is that he discovered there are no friends in politics. Who he thought were his closest friends and confidantes were the very ones who sharpened Turnbull's assassination dagger.

Abbott's "Et tu, Brute?" moments left him utterly disillusioned that there is any honour amongst politicians.

But then again, he's the bastard who put Hanson and Ettridge in prison. Live by the sword - die by the sword.
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