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Reply #60 - Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:43pm

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

. Most Muslims are not on Isis' 'side'. But you're so caught up in your 'side' that you're blind to the truth. Someone can critique the west without being on the opposing side. Or do you think the west is beyond reproach? Cheesy

Islam is note merely 'critiquing' the West from an equally enlightened and truth-valuing position.
Like Marxists, Greens, Nazis, anarchists and a few other identity group, Islam is purposefully undermining the West and it's core values: it wants to supplant individual rights with group rights (Muslims being the in-group, of course), freedom of speech with self-censorship and blasphemy laws, equal dignity to all humans with sex discrimination along Koranic lines, freedom of religion and conscience and the press with dhimmitude to non-Muslims, censorship and speech-codes. etc, etc.

That is not mere 'critique. That's a frontal attack.

My critiquing comment was not about muslims critiquing the west, it was about westerners critiquing the west. Something which I think you knew but pretended otherwise Cheesy

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Reply #61 - Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:57pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

. Most Muslims are not on Isis' 'side'. But you're so caught up in your 'side' that you're blind to the truth. Someone can critique the west without being on the opposing side. Or do you think the west is beyond reproach? Cheesy

Islam is note merely 'critiquing' the West from an equally enlightened and truth-valuing position.
Like Marxists, Greens, Nazis, anarchists and a few other identity group, Islam is purposefully undermining the West and it's core values: it wants to supplant individual rights with group rights (Muslims being the in-group, of course), freedom of speech with self-censorship and blasphemy laws, equal dignity to all humans with sex discrimination along Koranic lines, freedom of religion and conscience and the press with dhimmitude to non-Muslims, censorship and speech-codes. etc, etc.

That is not mere 'critique. That's a frontal attack.

My critiquing comment was not about muslims critiquing the west, it was about westerners critiquing the west. Something which I think you knew but pretended otherwise Cheesy

Stop distracting Sore End, John.

He's trying to find me a link.

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Reply #62 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:05am

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:29pm:

Taking Muslims serious 'AS IF' they were just like the West is the biggest mistake - and it's being made again and again. They KNOW they are not like us - why do we INSIST on treating them as if they were? THEY don't think they are like us. Why not believe them?????

A very good point that ought to be repeated on a regular basis until people wake up to the fact that we have Muslim cuckoo-birds laying their eggs in our own national nest - and at a much faster rate than the rest of us are breeding our own 'kuffar' hatchlings.

They are not of our species, but are using our own amenities and 21st century privileges and developments to advance their own colonialist ambitions for eventually gaining a foothold at the top of our national totem pole.

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #63 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:29am

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Islamic inspired atrocities are not going away, in fact, I think they may have worked out a winning formula. No worries dicking about with tricky explosives, just gather together a few fellow cultists, equip them with cheap weapons and point them toward a popular spot. They have been busy fine tuning the tactics in buildings where people are confined.

And all the more the luvvies deflect, defend, mitigate and use sophistry the more diminished they will be.

This poo ain't going away. Europe is waking up slowly.

This shít is going to get a lot worse until finally, and hopefully - inshallah - Western politicians themselves will become the target of suicide bombers and gun-toting Muslims spreading their guts out onto the pavements.

Nothing less will prompt our politicians to make a sincere and concerted effort to sort out the Hostiles from the Passives in our Muslim communities. This needs to be done on an individual basis just as happens in the Detention Centres.

No jailings - just forced deportations in the general direction of the Middle East. Or even send them to Germany to cuddle up to Merkel's ample bosom.

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Reply #65 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

The vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate

Link?

http://www.britannica.com/place/Caliphate

A lovely link, Sore End. Thank you.

Now, how about a link that supports your claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate"?

Hmmm?

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_quaire.pdf

Q27 - F 28 b.
page 8.

the whole report: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin... and http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin...

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #66 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:42am

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

There is Islamic State because all the bromide about the 'vast majority of Muslims' is utter BS.

no, there is an Islamic state because some nutjob has figured out how to use your stupidity and hatred against you.

So now the Islamic State is about me??

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #67 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:48am

Soren wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

The vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate

Link?

http://www.britannica.com/place/Caliphate

A lovely link, Sore End. Thank you.

Now, how about a link that supports your claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate"?

Hmmm?

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_quaire.pdf

Q27 - F 28 b.
page 8.

the whole report: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin... and http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin...

That doesn't support you claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate".

Shall we leave it there, or do you wish to keep embarrassing yourself.

I'm easy, either way.

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #68 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

Soren wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

The vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate

Link?

http://www.britannica.com/place/Caliphate

A lovely link, Sore End. Thank you.

Now, how about a link that supports your claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate"?

Hmmm?

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_quaire.pdf

Q27 - F 28 b.
page 8.

the whole report: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin... and http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin...

That doesn't support you claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate".

Shall we leave it there, or do you wish to keep embarrassing yourself.

I'm easy, either way.

Of course it does.

It also supports my other, much more important claim:

It's a massive mistake to think that Muslims 'are like us'. They are Muslims. They are like other Muslims. They KNOW how they are different from us. It is stupid and suicidal to insist that they are like us when they do not for a moment think that.

Grapple with that.

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #69 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:59am

Soren wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

Soren wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

The vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate

Link?

http://www.britannica.com/place/Caliphate

A lovely link, Sore End. Thank you.

Now, how about a link that supports your claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate"?

Hmmm?

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_quaire.pdf

Q27 - F 28 b.
page 8.

the whole report: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin... and http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/incl/prin...

That doesn't support you claim that "the vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate".

Shall we leave it there, or do you wish to keep embarrassing yourself.

I'm easy, either way.

Of course it does.

It does no such thing.

OK, we've decided on option (b): you want to keep embarrassing yourself.

I can go with that.

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #70 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 10:27am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:00am:

I really doubt that would make a difference herb.
They'd probably hold an interfaith service in a mosque and have a week of love-ins. The ABC would run 24/7 programming on the benefits of multiculti and discussions on how it was all Tony Abbott's fault

The US presidential hopeful Donald Trump is talking about putting all of their Muslims on a registry - and closing down the mosques ... and polls are showing he has a lot of support from the general public with these ideas.

The West's moves towards sanitising their own Muslim Communities is hotting up. People are tired of appeasement and political correctness from limp-wristed politicians.

"All Muslims living in the United States might be forced to register their personal information in a federal database if Donald Trump is elected president.

On Thursday night, the billionaire Republican presidential candidate told an NBC reporter that all American Muslims “have to be” required to registered in a database in the wake of deadly terror attacks in Paris and Beirut.

“I would certainly implement that — absolutely,” Trump said when asked about forcing registration of the 5 million to 12 million Muslims living in America.

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"Though shutting down mosques would be objectively extreme, recent polling has shown the idea is resonating with some Republicans. On Thursday, Public Policy Polling found that 27 percent of Republican primary voters support that the idea of shutting down all mosques in the U.S.

The idea of stepping up domestic surveillance on U.S. mosques and even shutting some of them down — as France has promised to do recently following terrorist attacks in Paris — was floated this week by Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump. Trump said he would “Yahoo News in an interview published Thursday. “We’re going to have to do things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago,” he said.

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But among voters who are already committed to a candidate, the numbers become much starker. The poll found a higher percentage of Cruz and Trump supporters — 41 percent and 37 percent, respectively — support shutting down U.S. mosques.

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #71 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 11:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

. Most Muslims are not on Isis' 'side'. But you're so caught up in your 'side' that you're blind to the truth. Someone can critique the west without being on the opposing side. Or do you think the west is beyond reproach? Cheesy

Islam is note merely 'critiquing' the West from an equally enlightened and truth-valuing position.
Like Marxists, Greens, Nazis, anarchists and a few other identity group, Islam is purposefully undermining the West and it's core values: it wants to supplant individual rights with group rights (Muslims being the in-group, of course), freedom of speech with self-censorship and blasphemy laws, equal dignity to all humans with sex discrimination along Koranic lines, freedom of religion and conscience and the press with dhimmitude to non-Muslims, censorship and speech-codes. etc, etc.

That is not mere 'critique. That's a frontal attack.

My critiquing comment was not about muslims critiquing the west, it was about westerners critiquing the west. Something which I think you knew but pretended otherwise Cheesy

Stop distracting Sore End, John.

He's trying to find me a link.

no, he's ignoring your request in the hope that you forget about it.

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Re: Call all Muslims terrorists you are a traitor
Reply #72 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 11:21am

Soren wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

There is Islamic State because all the bromide about the 'vast majority of Muslims' is utter BS.

no, there is an Islamic state because some nutjob has figured out how to use your stupidity and hatred against you.

So now the Islamic State is about me??

Not just you .... you and your whole brethren of haters

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Reply #73 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:02pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

Soren wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

There is Islamic State because all the bromide about the 'vast majority of Muslims' is utter BS.

no, there is an Islamic state because some nutjob has figured out how to use your stupidity and hatred against you.

So now the Islamic State is about me??

Not just you .... you and your whole brethren of haters

They are beheading aid workers because and massacre concert goers we hate them for beheading aid workers and massacring concert goers.

It makes sense to you and the Grand Miff-ti, I can see that.

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Reply #74 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:11pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

The vast majority of Muslims support the idea of a caliphate

Link?

http://www.britannica.com/place/Caliphate

from YOUR LINK

In the 20th century the reestablishment of the caliphate, although occasionally invoked by Islamists as a symbol of global Islamic unity, was of no practical interest for mainstream Islamist groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. It did, however, figure prominently in the rhetoric of violent extremist groups such as al-Qaeda. In June 2014 an insurgent group known as the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL; also known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria [ISIS] and the Islamic State [IS]), which had taken control of areas of eastern Syria and western Iraq, declared the establishment of a caliphate with the group’s leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as caliph. Outside of extremist circles, the group’s claim was widely rejected.

Cheesy

It has always been the violent Muslims who have been setting the agenda, starting with Mohammed. The rest will go along with whatever. They are not exactly open minded, curious critical thinkers, you know, the Muslim masses.

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