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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #15 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Guns should be outlawed -

What will gun nuts use to compensate for their small penises, if guns are outlawed?

Maybe you could show them your Mangina and explain how being someone's girlfriend isn't so bad. Grin

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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #16 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

Criminals are not allowed to buy this Adler shotgun.

Laws don't necessarily stop people from doing things.

No, .....but if we had laws, and a justice system, which removed violent criminals from society, PERMANENTLY!, Australia would be a safer place.

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Do you contest that statement ?

And we [collectively] would enjoy i higher modicum of peace within all of society, imo.

TODAY in Australia, pump action shotguns are proscribed 'weapons'.

TODAY in Australia, pump action shotguns are deemed to be too dangerous for Australians to own.

But up until the John Howard gun 'buy back' [post the 1996 Port Arthur atrocity],
i owned 2 pump action 12g shotguns [along with a number of other firearms], for 20+ years.

I have been 60+ years on this planet, and have been a peaceable and law abiding Australian citizen.

I have never been to goal.

I have never been charged with, nor convicted of, any criminal offence.

I have never had a drink driving charge or conviction.

I have never had an illicit drug possession/use charge or conviction.

Should i be permitted to own a firearm ???

AGAIN; For 20+ years i did, lawfully possess 2 pump action 12g shotguns [along with a number of other firearms], without incident.

Is the Australia community, in 2015, safer, now that many, many peaceable and law abiding Australian citizens have had to surrender firearms ?

I think not.

Why so ?

Because the criminal class in Australia, clearly, still have access to, and possession of firearms!

.....whereas, because of laws passed by our governments, many peaceable and law abiding Australian citizens DO NOT.

AND YET

, our Australian governments continue to REFUSE, to pass laws which would see violent criminals permanently removed from society!

Dumb, dumb, dumb!

Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt!

We are governed, 2015, by criminals [at worst], and at best, by the CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT, imo.

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IMO, everybody in Australia who is;
1/ over 25 years of age,
2/ has not had a criminal conviction in the last 20 years,
3/ and has never been convicted of illicit drug abuse, AND, has never been convicted of drink driving,

.....should be allowed to own a firearm [if they want to own one] to defend their home and family.

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IMO, if we want a peaceful society, we need to make the criminals frightened,
......of the peaceable and law abiding citizens.

AND, remove 'career' criminals from society, permanently.

What is wrong with that ?

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
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A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143378 Gender:	Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney Reply #17 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:58pm Yadda wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:56pm: Should i be permitted to own a firearm ??? Absolutely not.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney Reply #18 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:02pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:26pm: Guns should be outlawed - not even the police should have them except in exceptional circumstances. There are too many people being shot & killed - it's getting like America. Good one Bobby, and exactly how will that stop criminals from having them???
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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #19 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:04pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Guns should be outlawed -

not even the police should have them except in exceptional circumstances.

There are too many people being shot & killed -

it's getting like America.

Good one Bobby, and exactly how will that stop criminals from having them???

He'll hang them.

He likes to see men well hung.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22155 A cat with a view	Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney Reply #20 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:58pm: Yadda wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:56pm: Should i be permitted to own a firearm ??? Absolutely not. A predictable response from a Hoplophobe. ....who believes that peace, comes from having a desire for peace.
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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #21 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:09pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Should i be permitted to own a firearm ???

Absolutely not.

A predictable response from a Hoplophobe.

....who believes that peace, comes from having a desire for peace. Cheesy

No.

I just think you're insane.

No offence.

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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #22 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

Should i be permitted to own a firearm ???

Absolutely not.

A predictable response from a Hoplophobe.

....who believes that peace, comes from having a desire for peace. Cheesy

No.

I just think you're insane.

No offence.

None taken.

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A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #23 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:22pm

____ wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:54am:

Alpha Cheng to attend anti-gun rally

The son of murdered NSW Police accountant Curtis Cheng will attend a rally against gun violence in Sydney.

Alpha Cheng will be joined on Thursday by Mary Cusumano, whose husband Angelo was shot dead in an armed robbery in 1995, at the rally hosted by Gun Control Australia.

Representatives from the Homicide Victims Support Group will also attend the gathering with Greens MP David Shoebridge and Labor MP Hugh McDermott at Wynyard Park from 10.30am.

The Police minister saying Green senator Shoebridge's fear campaign publicity stunt isn't helping and he should stick the the truth.

The police minister also said the guns sold in gunshops are not a problem, greater than 97% of all gun crime is done with unregistered illegal guns.

Police minster calling out Shoebridge and gun control Australia's fear campaign at 1 min 06-
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Gun Control Australia are financed by the American billionaire George Soros who some might remember made a billion when he busted the Bank of England in 1992.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18804 Gender:	Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney Reply #24 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:23pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:22pm: Gun Control Australia are financed by the American billionaire George Soros who some might remember made a billion when he busted the Bank of England in 1992. But he's a left wing billionaire; and they're ok.
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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #25 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:38pm

'New South Wales Greens MP David Shoebridge joined the call to ban the Adler and said any weapon with the capacity to fire eight shots in quick-succession should be considered a risk to the community.

"What's remarkable, is that this weapon is going to be classified as one of the least restricted weapons," he said.

"It is remarkable that this weapon will have the same classification as an air rifle." '

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-05/pro-gun-lobbyists-disrupt-gun-control-appe...

'The gun features a smooth cycling action, 5-shot tube magazine and a soft ventilated recoil pad.'

http://nioa.net.au/news/latest-news/view/38/adler-lever-action-shotgun/latest-ne...

Category             Description
'C3                   a pump action shotgun with a magazine capacity no more than 5 rounds'

'A1                   an air rifle'

http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Ourservices/PoliceLicensingServices/Firearms2/Firear...

So it has 5 rounds not 8 and the category isn't the same as an air rifle.

The politician is a liar.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87456 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney Reply #26 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:51pm .. and when the people have no arms with which to defend themselves against criminals of all kinds... the people have no final defence against criminals of all kinds...
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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #27 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:53pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:51pm:

.. and when the people have no arms with which to defend themselves against criminals of all kinds... the people have no final defence against criminals of all kinds...

Just make a rail gun. A few capacitors, nine volt battery and away you go.

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Re: The Anti Gun Rally In Sydney
Reply #28 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Guns should be outlawed -

What will gun nuts use to compensate for their small penises, if guns are outlawed?

Son - I have a large penis, and have owned several firearms including a sniping rifle of .303 calibre, special job with a sliding rear sight and heavy, long barrel and a few other mods, that I've used in foreign lands... back home, even though I live on a rural property, I had and have no use or need for firearms and surrendered mine without discussion, and have no desire, unlike my neighbours, to kill kangaroos and deer that live here, for no valid reason that I can see.

Problem is - when a small man installs a regime that uses any artifice to remove legal firearms from people who have done no wrong, and opens up massive social divisions in doing so - they begin the process towards a civil war initiated by that same small man in the guise of government, and remove from the populace their opportunity to self-defend against criminals and also against criminal government.

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