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Reply #75 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

In a nut shell negating them being muslims in the process. Its pretty simple.

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Reply #76 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:23pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

Many Christians do too. And Jews. All sorts of people glean evil out of those old books.

Plenty of people across the board pick out better bits though.

The irony of islam though is that the book itself IS the evil and it is that that defines the religion and what a muslim is. Not what evil people glean out of it. In context it is evil. Yes the inconvenient truth raises its head for the apologist to show disdain again.That's the difference nice try though.

It has more bigotry and violent instructions in it than Adolf Hitlers mein kamph. Fact.

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Reply #77 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:25pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

Why are you babbling on about what a muslim is I already told you the Qur'an defines that. Same definition I use, not you. Which makes you clearly wrong. Like I said LEARN. You seem to think there is some leeway in its definition.

My assessment of what a muslim is is 100% accurate and contradicts no one. There are millions of people that call themselves Muslims and Christians and are not. You seem to think they are muslims. The Christian God even said on judgement day they will say its me God thinking they were Christians and he will turn away and say I never knew you. That is consistent with reality. You running around giving all these so called examples of muslims simply clearly are not muslims. Just people that think they are. These pretend ones suite your argument that's why you mention them. There is no other reason you do. The same with gandalf. An in convenient truth makes you side step reality.

I comment on REAL muslims not pretend ones.

Believe what you want, I couldn't care less, I'll go with the actual ideologies doctrine.

So are you saying that the Bible defines what a Christian is? Ok to keep slaves is it?

Or do you think people define themselves?

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Reply #78 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:26pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

Many Christians do too. And Jews. All sorts of people glean evil out of those old books.

Plenty of people across the board pick out better bits though.

The irony of islam though is that the book itself IS the evil and it is that that defines the religion and what a muslim is. Not what evil people glean out of it. In context it is evil. Yes the inconvenient truth raises its head for the apologist to show disdain again.That's the difference nice try though.

It has more bigotry and violent instructions in it than Adolf Hitlers mein kamph. Fact.

All of the old books are filled with hatred and bigotry. People are selective about what parts they agree with and what parts they don't.

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Reply #79 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:34pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:26pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

Many Christians do too. And Jews. All sorts of people glean evil out of those old books.

Plenty of people across the board pick out better bits though.

The irony of islam though is that the book itself IS the evil and it is that that defines the religion and what a muslim is. Not what evil people glean out of it. In context it is evil. Yes the inconvenient truth raises its head for the apologist to show disdain again.That's the difference nice try though.

It has more bigotry and violent instructions in it than Adolf Hitlers mein kamph. Fact.

All of the old books are filled with hatred and bigotry. People are selective about what parts they agree with and what parts they don't.

I agree. That doesn't make them an adherent though. An adherent satisfies the doctrines definition of what an adherent is.

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Reply #80 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:44pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:34pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:26pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

Many Christians do too. And Jews. All sorts of people glean evil out of those old books.

Plenty of people across the board pick out better bits though.

The irony of islam though is that the book itself IS the evil and it is that that defines the religion and what a muslim is. Not what evil people glean out of it. In context it is evil. Yes the inconvenient truth raises its head for the apologist to show disdain again.That's the difference nice try though.

It has more bigotry and violent instructions in it than Adolf Hitlers mein kamph. Fact.

All of the old books are filled with hatred and bigotry. People are selective about what parts they agree with and what parts they don't.

I agree. That doesn't make them an adherent though. An adherent satisfies the doctrines definition of what an adherent is.

The doctrines are all over the place. It is the duty of the reasonable reader to apply what suits theim or not.

Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. They interpret the Bible hatefully. They preach hate as a result.

Very different from my mother who uses the word of God to do good deeds, be inclusive and support human rights.

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Reply #81 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:53pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:44pm:

The doctrines are all over the place. It is the duty of the reasonable reader to apply what suits theim or not.

Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. They interpret the Bible hatefully. They preach hate as a result.

Very different from my mother who uses the word of God to do good deeds, be inclusive and support human rights.

They can interpret the bible because the bible is a collection of books written by men inspired by God. It is translated over and over again to become more accurate over time as we learn more about history, customs and the definition of words use back in the day.

It doesn't claim to be word by word from God. Does westboro go against the teachings of Christ. Yes they do. They simply are NOT christians.

Your mother on the other hand if she believes the Gospel message and follows Christs instructions is a true Christian. If she just does good deeds based on the bible and rejects the gospel then she is just a good woman and not a Christian.

The doctrine of islam re what a muslim is is the same in every Qu'ran and is stated it is the actual word of god word for word. There is no room for changing its definition. It allows NO take what you want from it.

If you do according to it you are not a muslim.

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Reply #82 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:53pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:44pm:

The doctrines are all over the place. It is the duty of the reasonable reader to apply what suits theim or not.

Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. They interpret the Bible hatefully. They preach hate as a result.

Very different from my mother who uses the word of God to do good deeds, be inclusive and support human rights.

They can interpret the bible because the bible is a collection of books written by men inspired by God. It is translated over and over again to become more accurate over time as we learn more about history, customs and the definition of words use back in the day.

It doesn't claim to be word by word from God. Does westboro go against the teachings of Christ. Yes they do. They simply are NOT christians.

Your mother on the other hand if she believes the Gospel message and follows Christs instructions is a true Christian. If she just does good deeds based on the bible and rejects the gospel then she is just a good woman and not a Christian.

The doctrine of islam re what a muslim is is the same in every Qu'ran and is stated it is the actual word of god word for word. There is no room for changing its definition. It allows NO take what you want from it.

If you do according to it you are not a muslim.

I think your definitions are too strict. People interpret these ancient books as they see fit. But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour. At least i hope so for your sake.

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

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Reply #83 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

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Reply #84 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:05am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

All that said and you are still wrong about what a Muslim is. You are blinded by bigotry.

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Reply #85 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:17am

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:05am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

All that said and you are still wrong about what a Muslim is. You are blinded by bigotry.

No that would be you due to lack of understanding and being unteachable and the paradigm you live by.

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Reply #86 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:42am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:17am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:05am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

All that said and you are still wrong about what a Muslim is. You are blinded by bigotry.

No that would be you due to lack of understanding and being unteachable and the paradigm you live by.

No. It is you imposing on others what they think.

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Reply #87 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:46am

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:42am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:17am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:05am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

All that said and you are still wrong about what a Muslim is. You are blinded by bigotry.

No that would be you due to lack of understanding and being unteachable and the paradigm you live by.

No. It is you imposing on others what they think.

I am imposing nothing, nice try though. I am just stating what is the truth from islamic doctrine rather than what I perceive is the truth like you are trying to impose on others. I am happy to stick to the islamic doctrine, something you choose to ignore because it simply does not support your view.

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Reply #88 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:54am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:46am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:42am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:17am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:05am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

All that said and you are still wrong about what a Muslim is. You are blinded by bigotry.

No that would be you due to lack of understanding and being unteachable and the paradigm you live by.

No. It is you imposing on others what they think.

I am imposing nothing, nice try though. I am just stating what is the truth from islamic doctrine rather than what I perceive is the truth like you are trying to impose on others. I am happy to stick to the islamic doctrine, something you choose to ignore because it simply does not support your view.

My view is that there are numerous interpretations of the Qur'an. It i as open to interpretation as any of the old books.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #89 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 2:04am

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:54am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:46am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:42am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:17am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:05am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I think your definitions are too strict.

You can think what you want I don't care, they are not my definitions they are the doctrinal written clear definition in any quran you care to offer up. I make no interpretation. You had better contact the writer if you don't like them they are not my definitions.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

People interpret these ancient books as they see fit.

Thats my whole point. In the case of the Qur'an the ones you call muslims that support your view would be simply wrong in assuming they were actually muslim. According to their own doctrine they assume they are part of.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

But religion is more about visceral feeling than it is about learned behaviour.

I never said anything about learn behavior. Religion is about belief and spirituality.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

At least i hope so for your sake.

Feign as you may, you have no feeling for me. Lets not pretend.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

I assure you my mother is a good Catholic woman, but i doubt she would agree with the way you conduct yourself, or almost anything you have said.

My conduct is sinful why would she agree with that. So is her conduct. If she would not agree with what I have just reiterated about the gospel she simply is NOT a christian. Feel free to think she is but I feel you don't speak for your mother actually. Secondly the fact she is a good Roman Catholic means squat. Roman Catholicism was created by Romans it is not the Holy Catholic church as mentioned in the bible. Do you seriously think the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and all those priests are meant to be celibate and then caving in to carnal desire. The Gold horded up in the vatican. Thats the most evil organization on the face of the earth along side islam. I wouldn't run around quoting the Roman Catholic Church so much if I were you.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

You cannot claim somebody;s spirituality isn't what they say it is because it conflicts with your narrow view of what that spirituality is.

Correct, I use the doctrine they say they believe in to refute it. That way I don't have a narrow view but a rather accurate one.

All that said and you are still wrong about what a Muslim is. You are blinded by bigotry.

No that would be you due to lack of understanding and being unteachable and the paradigm you live by.

No. It is you imposing on others what they think.

I am imposing nothing, nice try though. I am just stating what is the truth from islamic doctrine rather than what I perceive is the truth like you are trying to impose on others. I am happy to stick to the islamic doctrine, something you choose to ignore because it simply does not support your view.

My view is that there are numerous interpretations of the Qur'an. It i as open to interpretation as any of the old books.

Yet it says it isn't, funny that. Well good for you in any case.

Enjoy.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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