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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #60 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:09pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:12am:

Absolutely Bobby - cause as everyone knows "stupid and irresponsible" totally means "acceptable" Cheesy

Cheesy

Gandalf,

That's not in the post above.

I can't be bothered looking to find where you might have said that.

you are forgiven for being a Muslim apologist

namaste

Sir Bobby, What does the religion of the idiot who stuffed his kid in a bucket have to do with him stuffing his kid into the bucket?

The idiot religion encourages such violence, even worse, to punish what it calls disobedient wives or children. No doubt that will sail right in one ear and out the other.

Many Muslim societies don't do anything of the sort. The majority of Muslims don't do anything of the sort.

You have a problem with certain regimes and tribal practices, not the bulk of Islam.

It sailed right in one ear and out the other didn't it, he was talking about the religion. Clearly you know nothing about it. You would do well doing some learning before commenting nanna.

The religion is not typically represented by a person stuffing a baby into a bucket and putting on the lid.

The religion is not typified by draconian penalties to women.

You need to remove yourself from your very deeply rooted hatred of all things Islam and embrace the reality of the religion.

You need to learn what you are actually talking about before commenting grandma.

Come back when you do.

I know that most Muslims in the world don't stuff their kids into buckets and that this person is not representative of his religion.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 117360 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket Reply #61 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm But Mothra, a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children. It says so in the Koran.
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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #62 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:30pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:12am:

Absolutely Bobby - cause as everyone knows "stupid and irresponsible" totally means "acceptable" Cheesy

Cheesy

Gandalf,

That's not in the post above.

I can't be bothered looking to find where you might have said that.

you are forgiven for being a Muslim apologist

namaste

Sir Bobby, What does the religion of the idiot who stuffed his kid in a bucket have to do with him stuffing his kid into the bucket?

The idiot religion encourages such violence, even worse, to punish what it calls disobedient wives or children. No doubt that will sail right in one ear and out the other.

Many Muslim societies don't do anything of the sort. The majority of Muslims don't do anything of the sort.

You have a problem with certain regimes and tribal practices, not the bulk of Islam.

It sailed right in one ear and out the other didn't it, he was talking about the religion. Clearly you know nothing about it. You would do well doing some learning before commenting nanna.

The religion is not typically represented by a person stuffing a baby into a bucket and putting on the lid.

The religion is not typified by draconian penalties to women.

You need to remove yourself from your very deeply rooted hatred of all things Islam and embrace the reality of the religion.

You need to learn what you are actually talking about before commenting grandma.

Come back when you do.

I know that most Muslims in the world don't stuff their kids into buckets and that this person is not representative of his religion.

Firstly no you don't, secondly you don't even know what a muslim is nor what the quran teaches.

On your bike granny.

There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

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Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36383 Gender:	Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket Reply #63 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm: But Mothra, a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children. It says so in the Koran. It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.
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LifeOrDeath

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #64 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #65 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #66 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #67 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There are plenty of gaps for interpretation. Surely you are not arguing that most Muslims beat their wives?

Do you think Gandalf beats his wife?

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #68 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:54pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There are plenty of gaps for interpretation. Surely you are not arguing that most Muslims beat their wives?

Do you think Gandalf beats his wife?

Name the gaps I see none, the Qur'an see's none.

I don't class gandalf as a muslim. He likes to think he is one. He has stated he has his own version of islam openly. The book he follows (The Qur'an) follows him around shouting out hypocrite and heretic but he consciously ignores that which actually negates him being a muslim according to the Qur'an his own so called holy book.

You can read that clearly on here anywhere when he is challenged with it.

There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #69 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:57pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There are plenty of gaps for interpretation. Surely you are not arguing that most Muslims beat their wives?

Do you think Gandalf beats his wife?

Name the gaps I see none, the Qur'an see's none.

I don't class gandalf as a muslim. He likes to think he is one. He has stated he has his own version of islam openly. The book he follows (The Qur'an) follows him around shouting out hypocrite and heretic but he consciously ignores that which actually negates him being a muslim according to the Qur'an his own so called holy book.

You can read that clearly on here anywhere when he is challenged with it.

So this is about your rigid classification, not actual Muslims who live amongst us and all over the world in relative peace and harmony. Gandalf isn't a Muslim according to you because he doesn't fit your idea of what a Muslim is.

Did you ever consider that it is you that has it wrong?

All evidence seems to suggest that.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #70 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:02pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There are plenty of gaps for interpretation. Surely you are not arguing that most Muslims beat their wives?

Do you think Gandalf beats his wife?

Name the gaps I see none, the Qur'an see's none.

I don't class gandalf as a muslim. He likes to think he is one. He has stated he has his own version of islam openly. The book he follows (The Qur'an) follows him around shouting out hypocrite and heretic but he consciously ignores that which actually negates him being a muslim according to the Qur'an his own so called holy book.

You can read that clearly on here anywhere when he is challenged with it.

So this is about your rigid classification, not actual Muslims who live amongst us and all over the world in relative peace and harmony. Gandalf isn't a Muslim according to you because he doesn't fit your idea of what a Muslim is.

Did you ever consider that it is you that has it wrong?

All evidence seems to suggest that.

No evidence being the Qur'an suggests this at all.

Its simply about what the Qur'an says and how it defines what you call a muslim is. If you wish to ignore that feel free I couldn't care less.

Thats why I tell you to learn what you are talking about before attempting to troll the subject.

There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #71 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:06pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There are plenty of gaps for interpretation. Surely you are not arguing that most Muslims beat their wives?

Do you think Gandalf beats his wife?

Name the gaps I see none, the Qur'an see's none.

I don't class gandalf as a muslim. He likes to think he is one. He has stated he has his own version of islam openly. The book he follows (The Qur'an) follows him around shouting out hypocrite and heretic but he consciously ignores that which actually negates him being a muslim according to the Qur'an his own so called holy book.

You can read that clearly on here anywhere when he is challenged with it.

So this is about your rigid classification, not actual Muslims who live amongst us and all over the world in relative peace and harmony. Gandalf isn't a Muslim according to you because he doesn't fit your idea of what a Muslim is.

Did you ever consider that it is you that has it wrong?

All evidence seems to suggest that.

No, REAL evidence, being the Qur'an suggests this at all.

Its simply about what the Qur'an says and how if defines what you call a muslim is. If you wish to ignore that feel free I couldn't care less.

Thats why I tell you to learn what you are talking about before attempting to troll the subject.

If you are running afoul of what a Muslim actually is, and it conflicts with what a Muslim actually is then the chances are your definition is wrong.

Your assessment clearly contradicts what a Muslim is in most parts of the world.

Have you read many testimonials of women who are Muslim? I know there are dreadful examples but there is much that is really encouraging.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #72 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #73 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It means that many Muslims do follow what's in their old lunatic book.

Many Christians do too. And Jews. All sorts of people glean evil out of those old books.

Plenty of people across the board pick out better bits though.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Muslim Seals crying Daughter in air-tight Bucket
Reply #74 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:18pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:06pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

But Mothra,

a Muslim is permitted to beat his wife & children.

It says so in the Koran.

It says alot of unpleasant things in all of the old books. It doesn;t mean that all followers of old books follow every sentiment in there.

It does if the old book states, if they don't, they are not muslims. In which case you would be talking about non muslims or islamic heretics. You do understand that don't you.

Are you saying that Muslims who do not beat their wives cannot call themselves Muslim?

If the wife does not act as the Quran dictates, yes exactly. This is the whole problem with the religion. The sick book that leaves no air gaps nor interpretation.

There are plenty of gaps for interpretation. Surely you are not arguing that most Muslims beat their wives?

Do you think Gandalf beats his wife?

Name the gaps I see none, the Qur'an see's none.

I don't class gandalf as a muslim. He likes to think he is one. He has stated he has his own version of islam openly. The book he follows (The Qur'an) follows him around shouting out hypocrite and heretic but he consciously ignores that which actually negates him being a muslim according to the Qur'an his own so called holy book.

You can read that clearly on here anywhere when he is challenged with it.

So this is about your rigid classification, not actual Muslims who live amongst us and all over the world in relative peace and harmony. Gandalf isn't a Muslim according to you because he doesn't fit your idea of what a Muslim is.

Did you ever consider that it is you that has it wrong?

All evidence seems to suggest that.

No, REAL evidence, being the Qur'an suggests this at all.

Its simply about what the Qur'an says and how if defines what you call a muslim is. If you wish to ignore that feel free I couldn't care less.

Thats why I tell you to learn what you are talking about before attempting to troll the subject.

If you are running afoul of what a Muslim actually is, and it conflicts with what a Muslim actually is then the chances are your definition is wrong.

Your assessment clearly contradicts what a Muslim is in most parts of the world.

Have you read many testimonials of women who are Muslim? I know there are dreadful examples but there is much that is really encouraging.

Why are you babbling on about what a muslim is I already told you the Qur'an defines that. Same definition I use, not you. Which makes you clearly wrong. Like I said LEARN. You seem to think there is some leeway in its definition.

My assessment of what a muslim is is 100% accurate and contradicts no one. There are millions of people that call themselves Muslims and Christians and are not. You seem to think they are muslims. The Christian God even said on judgement day they will say its me God thinking they were Christians and he will turn away and say I never knew you. That is consistent with reality. You running around giving all these so called examples of muslims simply clearly are not muslims. Just people that think they are. These pretend ones suite your argument that's why you mention them. There is no other reason you do. The same with gandalf. An in convenient truth makes you side step reality.

I comment on REAL muslims not pretend ones.

Believe what you want, I couldn't care less, I'll go with the actual ideologies doctrine.

There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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