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Re: English Grammar
Reply #60 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. Tongue

I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. Embarrassed

My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move

I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something

She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it .

I've never seen such a thing.

And I was born here.

Going shopping in your pyjamas???

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Reply #61 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades.

I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly.

I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all.

A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21753 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #62 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm English? forged it. I have forgodden it.
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #63 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:32pm PISS OFF Aussie or I will report you. This is MY topic and nobody is abusing anyone.
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Re: English Grammar
Reply #64 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades.

I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly.

I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all.

A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped.

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Reply #65 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:34pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. Tongue

I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. Embarrassed

My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move

I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something

She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it .

I've never seen such a thing.

And I was born here.

Going shopping in your pyjamas???

I have been in a number of suburbs where it is not uncommon. I don't get it and there was a time when I found it embarrassing but seem to have grown accustomed to it.

It does not tend to be sexy PJ's more flannelette or robes but still it isn't what I grew up expecting to see.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #66 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:35pm Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:32pm: PISS OFF Aussie or I will report you. This is MY topic and nobody is abusing anyone. That is precisely why he is here. It's your topic...and as such, he intends to trash it.
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Re: English Grammar
Reply #67 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:37pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

[quote author=John_Smith link=1446535347/15#15 7date=1446601325]peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. Tongue

I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. Embarrassed

My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move

I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something

She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it .

I've never seen such a thing.

And I was born here.

Going shopping in your pyjamas???

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:

I have been in a number of suburbs where it is not uncommon. I don't get it and there was a time when I found it embarrassing but seem to have grown accustomed to it.

It does not tend to be sexy PJ's more flannelette or robes but still it isn't what I grew up expecting to see.

Well.

I've yet to see such a thing. Huh

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36832 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #68 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:38pm I've never seen somebody shopping in their pyjamas. I live at the beach so i see many people shopping in their swimming gear but never pyjamas.
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Reply #69 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:39pm

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades.

I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly.

I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all.

A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped.

Nor can people be bothered reading rants that are very poorly and hastily put together and it is usually the barbs, rants or hasty put downs that are the worst.

If someone has a clear message and well thought out post but is remiss in the spelling/grammar department they should be listened to without judgment but more often than not it is the feisty ones looking for a reaction who are the worst destroyers of the English language.

Not always ... but often.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39964 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #70 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:39pm Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:32pm: PISS OFF Aussie or I will report you. This is MY topic and nobody is abusing anyone. No.........and be my guest......report me. (Nobody owns a topic, and I have no idea why you introduced 'abuse' into the discussion.)
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #71 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS? Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi." Then .......
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36832 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #72 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:42pm Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm: Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS? Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi." Then ....... Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi does my head in. I loathe it.
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Re: English Grammar
Reply #73 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:43pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades.

I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly.

I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all.

A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

As far as I'm concerned, if something is taught in primary school, it's basic knowledge.

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Re: English Grammar
Reply #74 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:44pm

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades.

I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly.

I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all.

A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped.

Nor can people be bothered reading rants that are very poorly and hastily put together and it is usually the barbs, rants or hasty put downs that are the worst.

If someone has a clear message and well thought out post but is remiss in the spelling/grammar department they should be listened to without judgment but more often than not it is the feisty ones looking for a reaction who are the worst destroyers of the English language.

Not always ... but often.

That said but one of the most abusive posters on here dresses it up in finery.

I find grammar is of no indication of abuse.

Except the trolls who don't even try.

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