Australian Politics Forum - English Grammar

bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #30 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual. Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39963 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #31 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:55pm Quote: I doubt the "tall poppy" issue has anything to do with people who don't speak/understand proper correct English.
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #32 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:59pm Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:55pm: Quote: I doubt the "tall poppy" issue has anything to do with people who don't speak/understand proper correct English. Piss off, arsie.
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Reply #33 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:06pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual.
Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.

I know what you mean. However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school.

There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum. "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own".

So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people. Grin

E&OE

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #34 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm I have been looking at rural real estate ads and noticed lots of places have their own “orchid.” Another common misuse is “adds” when “ads” are meant.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #35 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:17pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm: lots of places have their own “orchid it's a popular flower
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Reply #36 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual.
Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.

I know what you mean. However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school.

There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum. "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own".

So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people. Grin

E&OE

"To each his own."

In this instance, 'his' is a generic pronoun.

E&OE noted.

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Reply #37 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. Tongue

I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. Embarrassed

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #38 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:19pm 0rchid is probably predictive text gone unchecked, which is a disgrace in itself.
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Reply #39 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:22pm

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual.
Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.

I know what you mean. However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school.

There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum. "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own".

So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people. Grin

E&OE

"To each his own."

In this instance, 'his' is a generic pronoun.

His, her, their, its .... whatever. Wink

It is "to each .... own" not "Each to .... own". got it? Cool

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #40 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:25pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm: I have been looking at rural real estate ads and noticed lots of places have their own “orchid.” Another common misuse is “adds” when “ads” are meant. Do they mean Orchard, perhaps?
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Reply #41 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:27pm

Using correct grammar is a great idea...

However, the use and/or misuse of it is in no way a left vs right issue - that is just a dumb way to frame the debate and is an instant lose.

Someone else already pointed out that grammar (and by extension) language is a fluid thing. So, the good language and Grammar of bygone days would be foreign to us today. Even those of us who think we know it all about grammar.

It seems to me that clear communication is far more important at the end of the day, even considering that sometimes (at least) correct grammar helps make that message clearer - it is not always the case. As has been pointed out, generally when it comes to forums - grammar is only mentioned when the debate is already lost.

That is kind of funny when the OP is about grammar...

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Reply #42 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual.
Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.

I know what you mean. However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school.

There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum. "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own".

So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people. Grin

E&OE

"To each his own."

In this instance, 'his' is a generic pronoun.

His, her, their, its .... whatever. Wink

It is "to each .... own" not "Each to .... own". got it? Cool

Yup, I've got it, but you said, '...it is actually "To each their own."'
That's pretty definite.
Anyway, language and the way people use it is always changing. Old farts like me may not always like the changes but that's the way she goes: peoples is lazy...

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Reply #43 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:38pm

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:

Using correct grammar is a great idea...

However, the use and/or misuse of it is in no way a left vs right issue - that is just a dumb way to frame the debate and is an instant lose.

I was NOT talking about informal posts on a Political Forum that talks about everything but politics.

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Someone else already pointed out that grammar (and by extension) language is a fluid thing. So, the good language and Grammar of bygone days would be foreign to us today. Even those of us who think we know it all about grammar.

"bygone days" huh? Would you take notice if somebody in "AUTHORITY" said "everything I done?" (instead of did?) or "see yous later"? How proud you would be to see a Prime Minister speak thus?

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It seems to me that clear communication is far more important at the end of the day, even considering that sometimes (at least) correct grammar helps make that message clearer - it is not always the case. As has been pointed out, generally when it comes to forums - grammar is only mentioned when the debate is already lost.

Waffle. Waffle. Waffle.

Well done. 10/10

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Reply #44 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

Yup, I've got it, but you said, '...it is actually "To each their own."'
That's pretty definite.
Anyway, language and the way people use it is always changing. Old farts like me may not always like the changes but that's the way she goes: peoples is lazy...

At least you don't drive a taxi. Wink

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