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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #15 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21715 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #16 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:10pm You have all done good. Go to the top of the class. But leave your books; you'll be back
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 24104 ACT Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #17 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm Yadda wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:36am: What is you talking about ? You should of learned the Queens English. Queen's Ingrish twit!
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Reply #18 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:47pm

Here's a classic, but you have to listen carefully. "I bought, or they bought, something along, with whatever." It should be "I brought." It is endemic. You will hear it from Television announcers as well as the general public. We got it from the Brits. A good place to hear it is from the often plummy mouthed experts on Antique Roadshow. I learned it in school, and it took some effort to unlearn it.

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Reply #19 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:01pm

Of course using bad English in speech or writing is more than just an education issue in Australia.
It's also in part a "tall poppy" issue. People don't like to demonstrate a capacity to speak or write well in many cases for fear they will attract social criticism for "being better than they ought to be".

Well I say such attitudes are counter productive in many ways and those who hold them can screw themselves.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #20 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:04pm what for you say this? you no very nice
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62391 Here Gender:	Re: English Grammar Reply #21 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:30pm English Grammar My Great Grandma was English but my grandma was born in Australia.
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Muttley Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 483	Re: English Grammar Reply #22 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:19pm John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey...
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Reply #23 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:31pm

Muttley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey...

yeah Muttley ... I'm sure that someone who says 'their' instead of 'there' does so because their argument is weak ...

Were you born stupid or was it something you studied for?

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Reply #24 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:34pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

Muttley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey...

yeah Muttley ... I'm sure that someone who says 'their' instead of 'there' does so because their argument is weak ...

Were you born stupid or was it something you studied for?

There ya go dopey, you're as thick as pig sh!t.......and you prove it every time you respond..... Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:35pm

Muttley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

Muttley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.

Cheesy

Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey...

yeah Muttley ... I'm sure that someone who says 'their' instead of 'there' does so because their argument is weak ...

Were you born stupid or was it something you studied for?

There ya go dopey, you're as thick as pig sh!t.......and you prove it every time you respond..... Cheesy

I'll have to take your word for it

after all, you're the expert in pig sh!t.

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Reply #26 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:37pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Except that these days you have to allow for predictive text. I find mistakes I didn't make. Google made me do it.

But most of all, we haven't all had the benefit of the same education and we didn't all get the same start.
Doesn't mean you don't have the right to an opinion.

And highly educated opinions are not always the better ones anyway.

I've long held the policy that I prefer to listen to what a man is saying (different context back then) rather than the way he is saying it. Cool

An' 'at's roight, two, bruvvas...

Does 'paid out' spell the same, or is it 'payed out'? As in 'really paid him out, eh? (chortle, chortle)...

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Reply #27 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:42pm

issuevoter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

Here's a classic, but you have to listen carefully. "I bought, or they bought, something along, with whatever." It should be "I brought." It is endemic. You will hear it from Television announcers as well as the general public. We got it from the Brits. A good place to hear it is from the often plummy mouthed experts on Antique Roadshow. I learned it in school, and it took some effort to unlearn it.

I don't know why people get those mixed up. I was taught that bring = brought and buy = bought. Rather easy to remember.

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Reply #28 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:30pm:

English Grammar

My Great Grandma was English but my grandma was born in Australia.

Doesn't matter if you were born in Australia, India, USA, Canada, Kenya, South Africa, or a couple of dozen other places, it's still the English language.
And it's a brilliant language and it deserves the best treatment it can get.
In fact some of the best English speakers are in India.

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Reply #29 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:52pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:01pm:

Of course using bad English in speech or writing is more than just an education issue in Australia.
It's also in part a "tall poppy" issue. People don't like to demonstrate a capacity to speak or write well in many cases for fear they will attract social criticism for "being better than they ought to be".

Well I say such attitudes are counter productive in many ways and those who hold them can screw themselves.

I doubt the "tall poppy" issue has anything to do with people who don't speak/understand proper English.

When I was at school we had English Composition and English Literature. Two entirely different subjects and in English Composition we had Grammar (or Grandma Wink

) drummed into us.

However, the Aussie dialect is renown to be very lazy and it has nothing to do with how "posh" you speak. TV News readers mispronounce words .... and even an Australian Prime Minister got certain pronunciations way off beam. Grin

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