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Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess
Reply #60 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:00pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:10pm:

There is a long NBN thread here where I gave detailed links, all ignored by the RWNJs like Maria and roach.

The problem is that you claim these links but when asked to give them again, you refuse. Or worse, you link to FaceBook.

And then there is the problem that you are both a pathological liar and a fool. The evidence to this is your repeated claims that the polls are 50/50. You are a liar and a fool - all by your own words.

tHE FACTS ARE: libs hate copper internet and you can't deny it Cheesy

..do you think young lib voters love smoking crack and pretending copper internet was worth a once in a century mining boom?

clue: no, they don't

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Reply #61 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:10pm

It looks like the 48mm cable that will run down the streets in HFC areas will be copper, the “last mile” of coax that makes up HFC.

While Longy gave us a laugh saying 48mm diameter copper cables would not exert any force or no no net force or some such rubbish it looks like new, stronger power poles will be needed. Cheesy

Some facts:
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But in new submissions to the proposal made public this week, pole operators lent their voice to the chorus of dissent, arguing the increase in cable size would result both in safety and cost issues.

Endeavour Energy said the heavier cables were more likely to break a pole if snagged by a passing vehicle.

It also highlighted safety concerns, referring to a 2013 fatality associated with the removal of uninsulated electrical conductors similar to the HFC cables.

"If the [cables] are not properly installed and maintained there could be significant detriment caused to the safety of persons, the integrity of the power poles and the continuity of electrical supply," it argued [pdf].

"The MTM cabling assets now proposed for inclusion as low impact facilities are materially different to the existing fibre optic assets and this needs to be recognised."

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/pole-operators-hit-back-over-nbn-aerial-cable-plan...

I was right and Longy wrong. Crocodile was wrong too. Nice discussion in comments here: https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/04/nbn-cto-pitches-5gbps-speeds-for-hfc-cable-m...

It would all be so much simpler and cheaper to just run out FTTH. How long are the idiots and dunderheads in the shambles going down this wrong path? The next Labor govt MUST hold an RC into this MTM treason!

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Reply #62 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:40pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

It looks like the 48mm cable that will run down the streets in HFC areas will be copper, the “last mile” of coax that makes up HFC.

While Longy gave us a laugh saying 48mm diameter copper cables would not exert any force or no no net force or some such rubbish it looks like new, stronger power poles will be needed. Cheesy

Some facts:
Quote:

But in new submissions to the proposal made public this week, pole operators lent their voice to the chorus of dissent, arguing the increase in cable size would result both in safety and cost issues.

Endeavour Energy said the heavier cables were more likely to break a pole if snagged by a passing vehicle.

It also highlighted safety concerns, referring to a 2013 fatality associated with the removal of uninsulated electrical conductors similar to the HFC cables.

"If the [cables] are not properly installed and maintained there could be significant detriment caused to the safety of persons, the integrity of the power poles and the continuity of electrical supply," it argued [pdf].

"The MTM cabling assets now proposed for inclusion as low impact facilities are materially different to the existing fibre optic assets and this needs to be recognised."

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/pole-operators-hit-back-over-nbn-aerial-cable-plan...

I was right and Longy wrong. Crocodile was wrong too. Nice discussion in comments here: https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/04/nbn-cto-pitches-5gbps-speeds-for-hfc-cable-m...

It would all be so much simpler and cheaper to just run out FTTH. How long are the idiots and dunderheads in the shambles going down this wrong path? The next Labor govt MUST hold an RC into this MTM treason!

It's the royal commission into copper internet election we had to have Cheesy

Just ask me: I f'n know everything i f'n do Cheesy

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess Reply #64 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:52pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:21pm: Where is Longy? TWO flipping links and he goes and hides LOL LOL the big girls blouse! LONGY IS VERY VERY BUSY PUTTING MORE AMD MORE MORE MORE COPPER IN AND OUT OF WHERE IT DON'T SHINE...
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Reply #66 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:01pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:57pm:

LOL it seems the weight of the 48mm diameter cables might be enough to sink the MTM mish mash Cheesy

IS THAT THE NEWS ON THE GRAPEVINE?

Knowing people that work for the libs,... none of them like turnbull or his stinky stank! This all adds up to questionable chaos as it was abbott and turnbull that delivered the copper mess so it all means shaky nerves for all libs i suspect... further: I THINK SHORTEN KNOWS IT!

Cheesy

WIN FIRST: THAT IS THE RULE Cheesy

KEVIN SMASHED THE WHOLE BALLY LOT OF 'EM!

KEVIN KILLED THE LIBS FOR THE BEST PART OF THE 21ST CENTURY Grin

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49274 Gender:	Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess Reply #68 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:13pm Yeah, Quigley been blasting but christ the MTM is fricking stoopid!
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess Reply #69 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:15pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:13pm: Yeah, Quigley been blasting but christ the MTM is fricking stoopid! ..and I haven't even looked at delimiter today... must be nuclear war over there about now
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess Reply #70 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:17pm https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/04/truth-to-power-nbn-co-must-respect-its-found... ..haven't read it: probably only lets you read two paragraphs nowadays anyway
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Reply #71 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

lol: check out this comment,

"Truth to Power is a new regular column for Delimiter Members which tells powerful people in Australia’s technology sector important things that they may not want to hear. If you don’t read it … you’ll only get their version of events. Would you like your News Limited?"

that guy is a scream and a half Cheesy

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Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess
Reply #72 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:02pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/04/truth-to-power-nbn-co-must-respect-its-found...

..haven't read it: probably only lets you read two paragraphs nowadays anyway Wink

A few more paras than that. I would pay to read more but Renai is not a balanced person. Takes a position then gets narky when his position is attacked. Banned a few people before who questioned his blind acceptance of the crap Malodorous was spouting.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49274 Gender:	Re: Turnbulls Mixed Technology Mess Reply #73 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:35am Worth reading: http://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/6905096/data/exploding-malcolm-turnbull%25E2%2580%25...
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Reply #74 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 10:20am

Broadband traffic zooming, copper can’t keep up:

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The launch of Netflix has had a major impact on data volumes, with peering traffic through one provider jumping 50% — from four gigabytes per second to eight gigabytes per second.

The growth in data volumes is revealed by the latest indicators released by the Bureau of Communications Research (BCR) on Wednesday who say that “if industry research estimating the growth of subscription video on demand services is correct”, it estimates that by this December (2015) data download volumes will increase to 1.6 million terabytes over a three month period.

According to the BCR, based on Bureau of Statistics figures, total data consumption through fixed line networks grew from 140,000 terabytes from 1 April to 30 June 2010, to 1.35 million terabytes for the three months ending in June - driven by the use of streaming applications facilitated by faster‐speed technology.

And, the BCR points to what it says is an increasing shift of internet data from mobile networks to Wi-Fi, adding to fixed network data growth.

http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/data/70310-data-growth-exploding-along-wi...

Most mobile devices, phones and pads have always used wifi to down and upload data but with increasing data traffic wifi is used more.

The MTM just cannot handle the fast–growing traffic. LOL the so–called CBA saying we only needed 23mbps in 2023 Cheesy

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