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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #90 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:27am Why creep the rise in the GST by small amounts. Tax everything at 56% now and then it's next future rise is a decade away.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #91 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:28am whats SECRET about all this crap? if anyone thinks gst will forever stay at 10% have they got rocks for brains.
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #92 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:29am The cat's out of the bag. As soon as the media gets a hold of it, we know it's on the agenda. We didn't want 10% and we certainly don't want 15%. Bye bye Turnbull, it was nice having you for a while.
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Reply #93 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:30am

That is right cods, the GST is a piggybank the Lib govts can go to whenever they spend too much, which is always. As such it is to the detriment of sound economic management.

Raising the GST right now is about the stupidest act by a stupid Party!

I wish Swan had raised the GST to 15% and overcompensated those on the lowest incomes. Now the Libs will raise it and under-compensate those on lowest incomes.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #94 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:31am ____ wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:27am: Why creep the rise in the GST by small amounts. Tax everything at 56% now and then it's next future rise is a decade away. Don't give them ideas Greens. They'd love to, cigars, helicopters and champagne forever more.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59966 Here Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #95 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:33am cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:28am: whats SECRET about all this crap? if anyone thinks gst will forever stay at 10% have they got rocks for brains. You mean that John Howard lied to us when he deliberately put the mechanism in place to ensure it could never be changed ?
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Reply #96 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:35am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:29am:

The cat's out of the bag.

As soon as the media gets a hold of it, we know it's on the agenda.

We didn't want 10% and we certainly don't want 15%.

Bye bye Turnbull, it was nice having you for a while.

wow praise indeed from a dyedinthewool lefty...

it takes guts to raise the GST....something lefties dont have.. hey pan si did you see where the HECS DEBT will reach $70billion by 2018...and thats not counting the $9000 shortarse is planning to give to" higher education"..

what a joke... Roll Eyes

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$70billion

imagine what that would do for all those unemployed homeless people if that was paid back.... Grin

ho hum.. all this DEBT makes sense to some

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111360 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #97 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:36am We were all sucked in by Howard when he said that the GST of 10% was set in concrete - he lied - it was always going to rise.
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Reply #98 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:36am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:30am:

That is right cods, the GST is a piggybank the Lib govts can go to whenever they spend too much, which is always. As such it is to the detriment of sound economic management.

Raising the GST right now is about the stupidest act by a stupid Party!

I wish Swan had raised the GST to 15% and overcompensated those on the lowest incomes. Now the Libs will raise it and under-compensate those on lowest incomes.

god some are m ore stoooopid than I gave them credit for..

THE STATES GET THE GST HASNT ANYONE TOLD YOU THAT DEAR?

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Reply #99 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:38am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:36am:

We were all sucked in by Howard when he said
that the GST of 10% was set in concrete -

he lied - it was always going to rise.

GOT A LINK TO WHERE HE SAID THAT SUNSHINE???...

the GST is a TAX I have never heard one pollie claim any TAX was set in concrete...but prove me wrong.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49128 Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #100 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:38am The states get the GST as it stands ATM. Of course, on its introduction the feds cut various payments to the states. The federal Parliament can amend the GST Act and keep some or all of the extra GST revenue for themselves.
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Reply #101 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:39am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:25am:

crocodile wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:32pm:

Wolseley wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:26pm:

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Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is prepared to ask voters for a clear mandate on GST reform

and tax cuts

if his party room agrees, according to senior Liberals

Can someone explain why raising GST is such a bad thing when it is accompanied by tax cuts?

OK, I'll bite.

1. Those that pay only a small amount of tax or none at all such as very low income earners and pensioners pay the extra 5% but get no tax cut.

2. Bracket creep will eventually hoover up the lost revenue as taxpayers are exposed to inflation with immovable tax scales. The benefit of the income tax cut is only ephemeral.

The gummint should really look at spending first.

However, we also know that pensions and other welfare will also rise to compensate and so in the end, no one is worse off and some are better off - largely the poor.

Unfortunately, it seems the argument of compensation never really gets understood. They are happy to take reduced taxes and higher welfare but when GST is increased at the same time it is suddenly unfair. A lot of these people simply 'don't get it'.

I really don't see the government raising the pension, and other government benefits by 5%, but by all means, they can put forth a proposal.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #102 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:39am god the left dont even know what the GST is and o9r what it does...arrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Reply #103 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:40am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:38am:

The states get the GST as it stands ATM. Of course, on its introduction the feds cut various payments to the states.

The federal Parliament can amend the GST Act and keep some or all of the extra GST revenue for themselves.

NO THEY CANT.......THE STATES DECIDE WHO GETS WHAT...

stop making it up..you are a typical desperate lefty.. who believe crapola put out by lefties..

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Reply #104 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:44am

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:36am:

We were all sucked in by Howard when he said
that the GST of 10% was set in concrete -

he lied - it was always going to rise.

GOT A LINK TO WHERE HE SAID THAT SUNSHINE???...

the GST is a TAX I have never heard one pollie claim any TAX was set in concrete...but prove me wrong.

OH Cods that was the whole point of the states all having to agree, he said it could never happen.

Remember he wanted to get elected and one of the threats to that was the proposition that the GST would be increased like it has been everywhere else it has been used. He claimed that he could set it up in a way that would prevent it from ever increasing.

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Question: Do you want to have a 15% GST?
Yes 7 (33.3%) No 14 (66.7%) Not sure 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 21 « Created by: Bobby. on: Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:13pm »