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How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:53pm

Can this be done before the next election?

Or will he follow the path of Rudd, Gillard, Rudd and of course I'll include the name Abbott for the lefties.

Shorten has political terminal illness

He has the Corruption Commission to deal with

Then he has to get a personality transplant. But this would only increase his likability to 18%

We all need to give him good ideas to improve before Turnbull calls the election

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #1 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:55pm He is the best Leader the ALP have ever had he should stay where he is to prove the knife drawer has been permanently closed.
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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #2 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:11am

Encourage Shorten to reform the party, the factions, the relationship with the unions. Consult. Do some research. Put together a series of policies that address the changing economy. Employment, trade, education, the environment, sustainable technology, new industries. Cultivate relationships that reflect this. Pitch this as a platform for a modern, 21st century political party. A vision for a flexible, prosperous middle power, a bridge between East Asia and the West.

And then, when he’s done all that, replace him with a leader who can sell it.

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #3 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 1:22am I think the real question is; 'How does Shorten increase the ALP's likability?'
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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #4 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 2:58am double plus good wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 1:22am: I think the real question is; 'How does Shorten increase the ALP's likability?' Bing back Rudd. No...Gillard. Or...Rudd.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #5 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 4:39am How will ALP increase Shorten's likability bring back ABBOTT... .. well the labs do love the POLLS... and talkback... the cfmeu will have a few people lined up for the next election I am sure.. thats if half of them arent in jail by then..
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60029 Here Gender:	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #6 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 5:53am How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? They don't need to. They only need to wait till the community wakes up to Turnbull's un-likability. At the end of the day it is still the same old nasty incompetent government that Abbott was leading.
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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #7 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:00am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 5:53am:

How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?

They don't need to.

They only need to wait till the community wakes up to Turnbull's un-likability.

At the end of the day it is still the same old nasty incompetent government that Abbott was leading.

The only reason Shorten had any likability was because people disliked Abbott. Now that there's someone else in the Lodge who is more likable, people are turning away from Shorten in droves.

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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #8 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:04am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 5:53am:

How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?

They don't need to.

They only need to wait till the community wakes up to Turnbull's un-likability.

At the end of the day it is still the same old nasty incompetent government that Abbott was leading.

The only reason Shorten had any likability was because people disliked Abbott. Now that there's someone else in the Lodge who is more likable, people are turning away from Shorten in droves.

So it will be no surprise when people go back to Shorten when they work out that Turnbull is no better than Abbott and that it is still the same old nasty incompetent liberals as under Abbott.

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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #9 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:39am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 5:53am:

How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?

They don't need to.

They only need to wait till the community wakes up to Turnbull's un-likability.

At the end of the day it is still the same old nasty incompetent government that Abbott was leading.

The only reason Shorten had any likability was because people disliked Abbott. Now that there's someone else in the Lodge who is more likable, people are turning away from Shorten in droves.

So it will be no surprise when people go back to Shorten when they work out that Turnbull is no better than Abbott and that it is still the same old nasty incompetent liberals as under Abbott.

Drink in that delusion, DNA. I am sure on election night you will be blown away by Labor's massive defeat being the only one in the country not to have already seen it coming.

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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #10 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:44am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 5:53am:

How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?

They don't need to.

They only need to wait till the community wakes up to Turnbull's un-likability.

At the end of the day it is still the same old nasty incompetent government that Abbott was leading.

The only reason Shorten had any likability was because people disliked Abbott. Now that there's someone else in the Lodge who is more likable, people are turning away from Shorten in droves.

So it will be no surprise when people go back to Shorten when they work out that Turnbull is no better than Abbott and that it is still the same old nasty incompetent liberals as under Abbott.

Drink in that delusion, DNA. I am sure on election night you will be blown away by Labor's massive defeat being the only one in the country not to have already seen it coming.

No I will be aware of whatever the reality of the time happens to be. I would expect to see some relevant polling data in about 4 to 6 months and if we have another budget the following polls will be somewhat authoritative.

At this point in time people still have the opportunity to work out that the dream of Turnball is very different from the reality, at some point he is going to have to do something outside of providing meaningless rhetoric.

People swept up in the Turnball's honeymoon could easily get a surprise when reality comes to town.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #11 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:08am A rise in the GST might do it for him. The people's won't like it, not one little bit.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability? Reply #12 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:11am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:08am: A rise in the GST might do it for him. The people's won't like it, not one little bit. Just more of the LNP's insane idea that the poor should pay for the excesses of the rich.
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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #13 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:28am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:00am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 5:53am:

How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?

They don't need to.

They only need to wait till the community wakes up to Turnbull's un-likability.

At the end of the day it is still the same old nasty incompetent government that Abbott was leading.

The only reason Shorten had any likability was because people disliked Abbott. Now that there's someone else in the Lodge who is more likable, people are turning away from Shorten in droves.

So it will be no surprise when people go back to Shorten when they work out that Turnbull is no better than Abbott and that it is still the same old nasty incompetent liberals as under Abbott.

Drink in that delusion, DNA. I am sure on election night you will be blown away by Labor's massive defeat being the only one in the country not to have already seen it coming.

I honestly would not be surprised if Turnbull ended up with control of both Houses after the next election.

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Re: How will ALP increase Shorten's likability?
Reply #14 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:28am

Kat wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:11am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:08am:

A rise in the GST might do it for him.

The people's won't like it, not one little bit.

Just more of the LNP's insane idea that the poor should pay for the excesses of the rich.

GST is one of the fairest ways of taxing - everyone pays exactly the sae amount of tax. Blows your falsehood out of the water.

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