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Reply #60 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:10pm
 
Let's face it, Amnesty International does not believe in border control, which is in itself a position that stands for lawlessness. It is more of Nawaz's Regressive Leftism.
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Reply #61 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm
 
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)

In May this year the government announced that due to the need to save money it was no longer to be used for it’s original purpose. Tony had stopped the boats and there was no need for it. I would think it would have been preferable to move the poor souls trapped on Manus Island and Nauru there, to wait to be processed and resettled, and save billions by closing the hellholes, but I’m not the government. Instead asylum seekers in the detention centre began to be transferred to Nauru and Manus.

The official line was parts of the place would be closed with the most prison-like section to be used as a ‘contigency’ from next year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/christmas-island-detention-centre-to-close...

It soon became clear that the facility was increasingly being used as a gaol, a modern-day prison hulk, holding people who had had their visas cancelled, people the government had decided to deport or detain as part of their new purge.

Christmas Island detention centre being used to hold bikies, murderers with cancelled visas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/problem-immigration-detainees-sent-to-chri...

Naturally these prisoners, many of whom had been living in Australia for decades, were not happy about being incarcerated indefinitely on an island, away from their friends, families and lawyers. Some were pretty dodgy types anyway. Things became violent. This caused a lot of worry for asylum seekers still on the island. The government is is no hurry to move them all.

Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/influx-of-501s-into-detent...

Too many prisoners are New Zealanders.
Raised in Australia, he’s among a wave of Kiwis held on Christmas Island as visas revoked
http://www.smh.com.au/national/kiwis-held-on-christmas-island-as-visas-revoked-2...

The NZ government is very worried about all this. John Key has expressed his concerns to AllBull, who has done nothing. Our government doesn’t give a frack. Dutton, who must have got his jollies as a kid pulling wings off butterflies and torturing small animals, uses the place as his own private torture chamber while AllBull looks the other way.

One more thing – the place is run by Serco.
http://www.serco-ap.com.au/our-services/our-work/immigration-services/

Told you Mal is worse than abbott.
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Reply #62 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:00pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)

In May this year the government announced that due to the need to save money it was no longer to be used for it’s original purpose. Tony had stopped the boats and there was no need for it. I would think it would have been preferable to move the poor souls trapped on Manus Island and Nauru there, to wait to be processed and resettled, and save billions by closing the hellholes, but I’m not the government. Instead asylum seekers in the detention centre began to be transferred to Nauru and Manus.

The official line was parts of the place would be closed with the most prison-like section to be used as a ‘contigency’ from next year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/christmas-island-detention-centre-to-close...

It soon became clear that the facility was increasingly being used as a gaol, a modern-day prison hulk, holding people who had had their visas cancelled, people the government had decided to deport or detain as part of their new purge.

Christmas Island detention centre being used to hold bikies, murderers with cancelled visas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/problem-immigration-detainees-sent-to-chri...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


Naturally these prisoners, many of whom had been living in Australia for decades, were not happy about being incarcerated indefinitely on an island, away from their friends, families and lawyers. Some were pretty dodgy types anyway. Things became violent. This caused a lot of worry for asylum seekers still on the island. The government is is no hurry to move them all.

Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/influx-of-501s-into-detent...

Too many prisoners are New Zealanders.
Raised in Australia, he’s among a wave of Kiwis held on Christmas Island as visas revoked
http://www.smh.com.au/national/kiwis-held-on-christmas-island-as-visas-revoked-2...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


The NZ government is very worried about all this. John Key has expressed his concerns to AllBull, who has done nothing. Our government doesn’t give a frack. Dutton, who must have got his jollies as a kid pulling wings off butterflies and torturing small animals, uses the place as his own private torture chamber while AllBull looks the other way.

One more thing – the place is run by Serco.
http://www.serco-ap.com.au/our-services/our-work/immigration-services/
Maybe it should be run by the Greens?


Told you Mal is worse than abbott.
They're both far better than Rudd or Gillard.


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Reply #63 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:58pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)



You expect it to work so perfectly??!!

In addition - the Pacific Solution had about 15 deaths for the period between 2003-2007 with 200 illegals arriving

So lets examine what Labor replaced the Pacific Solution with!!

Labor's plan killed over 2000 illegals dying and 55,000 illegals arriving

We can all see how Labor's plan was "worked so perfectly" to kill people
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Reply #64 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 4:43pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:58pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)



You expect it to work so perfectly??!!

In addition - the Pacific Solution had about 15 deaths for the period between 2003-2007 with 200 illegals arriving

So lets examine what Labor replaced the Pacific Solution with!!

Labor's plan killed over 2000 illegals dying and 55,000 illegals arriving

We can all see how Labor's plan was "worked so perfectly" to kill people

And the Liberal songbook gets another outing.
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Reply #65 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 4:46pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:00pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)

In May this year the government announced that due to the need to save money it was no longer to be used for it’s original purpose. Tony had stopped the boats and there was no need for it. I would think it would have been preferable to move the poor souls trapped on Manus Island and Nauru there, to wait to be processed and resettled, and save billions by closing the hellholes, but I’m not the government. Instead asylum seekers in the detention centre began to be transferred to Nauru and Manus.

The official line was parts of the place would be closed with the most prison-like section to be used as a ‘contigency’ from next year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/christmas-island-detention-centre-to-close...

It soon became clear that the facility was increasingly being used as a gaol, a modern-day prison hulk, holding people who had had their visas cancelled, people the government had decided to deport or detain as part of their new purge.

Christmas Island detention centre being used to hold bikies, murderers with cancelled visas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/problem-immigration-detainees-sent-to-chri...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


Naturally these prisoners, many of whom had been living in Australia for decades, were not happy about being incarcerated indefinitely on an island, away from their friends, families and lawyers. Some were pretty dodgy types anyway. Things became violent. This caused a lot of worry for asylum seekers still on the island. The government is is no hurry to move them all.

Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/influx-of-501s-into-detent...

Too many prisoners are New Zealanders.
Raised in Australia, he’s among a wave of Kiwis held on Christmas Island as visas revoked
http://www.smh.com.au/national/kiwis-held-on-christmas-island-as-visas-revoked-2...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


The NZ government is very worried about all this. John Key has expressed his concerns to AllBull, who has done nothing. Our government doesn’t give a frack. Dutton, who must have got his jollies as a kid pulling wings off butterflies and torturing small animals, uses the place as his own private torture chamber while AllBull looks the other way.

One more thing – the place is run by Serco.
http://www.serco-ap.com.au/our-services/our-work/immigration-services/
Maybe it should be run by the Greens?


Told you Mal is worse than abbott.
They're both far better than Rudd or Gillard.



I guess things have to be put in words of one syllable for the dunce of OzPol.

They are putting violent criminals with Asylum Seekers imprisoned there. Asylum seeker families, men, women & children. That is not a good thing. Do you need an explanation of WHY that is not a good thing?
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Reply #67 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 6:53pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:00pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)

In May this year the government announced that due to the need to save money it was no longer to be used for it’s original purpose. Tony had stopped the boats and there was no need for it. I would think it would have been preferable to move the poor souls trapped on Manus Island and Nauru there, to wait to be processed and resettled, and save billions by closing the hellholes, but I’m not the government. Instead asylum seekers in the detention centre began to be transferred to Nauru and Manus.

The official line was parts of the place would be closed with the most prison-like section to be used as a ‘contigency’ from next year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/christmas-island-detention-centre-to-close...

It soon became clear that the facility was increasingly being used as a gaol, a modern-day prison hulk, holding people who had had their visas cancelled, people the government had decided to deport or detain as part of their new purge.

Christmas Island detention centre being used to hold bikies, murderers with cancelled visas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/problem-immigration-detainees-sent-to-chri...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


Naturally these prisoners, many of whom had been living in Australia for decades, were not happy about being incarcerated indefinitely on an island, away from their friends, families and lawyers. Some were pretty dodgy types anyway. Things became violent. This caused a lot of worry for asylum seekers still on the island. The government is is no hurry to move them all.

Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/influx-of-501s-into-detent...

Too many prisoners are New Zealanders.
Raised in Australia, he’s among a wave of Kiwis held on Christmas Island as visas revoked
http://www.smh.com.au/national/kiwis-held-on-christmas-island-as-visas-revoked-2...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


The NZ government is very worried about all this. John Key has expressed his concerns to AllBull, who has done nothing. Our government doesn’t give a frack. Dutton, who must have got his jollies as a kid pulling wings off butterflies and torturing small animals, uses the place as his own private torture chamber while AllBull looks the other way.

One more thing – the place is run by Serco.
http://www.serco-ap.com.au/our-services/our-work/immigration-services/
Maybe it should be run by the Greens?


Told you Mal is worse than abbott.
They're both far better than Rudd or Gillard.



I guess things have to be put in words of one syllable for the dunce of OzPol.

They are putting violent criminals with Asylum Seekers imprisoned there. Asylum seeker families, men, women & children. That is not a good thing. Do you need an explanation of WHY that is a good thing?


As they attempted to enter our country illegally against our wishes, they're right at home there I reckon!
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Reply #68 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 6:55pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 6:53pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:00pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)

In May this year the government announced that due to the need to save money it was no longer to be used for it’s original purpose. Tony had stopped the boats and there was no need for it. I would think it would have been preferable to move the poor souls trapped on Manus Island and Nauru there, to wait to be processed and resettled, and save billions by closing the hellholes, but I’m not the government. Instead asylum seekers in the detention centre began to be transferred to Nauru and Manus.

The official line was parts of the place would be closed with the most prison-like section to be used as a ‘contigency’ from next year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/christmas-island-detention-centre-to-close...

It soon became clear that the facility was increasingly being used as a gaol, a modern-day prison hulk, holding people who had had their visas cancelled, people the government had decided to deport or detain as part of their new purge.

Christmas Island detention centre being used to hold bikies, murderers with cancelled visas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/problem-immigration-detainees-sent-to-chri...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


Naturally these prisoners, many of whom had been living in Australia for decades, were not happy about being incarcerated indefinitely on an island, away from their friends, families and lawyers. Some were pretty dodgy types anyway. Things became violent. This caused a lot of worry for asylum seekers still on the island. The government is is no hurry to move them all.

Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/influx-of-501s-into-detent...

Too many prisoners are New Zealanders.
Raised in Australia, he’s among a wave of Kiwis held on Christmas Island as visas revoked
http://www.smh.com.au/national/kiwis-held-on-christmas-island-as-visas-revoked-2...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


The NZ government is very worried about all this. John Key has expressed his concerns to AllBull, who has done nothing. Our government doesn’t give a frack. Dutton, who must have got his jollies as a kid pulling wings off butterflies and torturing small animals, uses the place as his own private torture chamber while AllBull looks the other way.

One more thing – the place is run by Serco.
http://www.serco-ap.com.au/our-services/our-work/immigration-services/
Maybe it should be run by the Greens?


Told you Mal is worse than abbott.
They're both far better than Rudd or Gillard.



I guess things have to be put in words of one syllable for the dunce of OzPol.

They are putting violent criminals with Asylum Seekers imprisoned there. Asylum seeker families, men, women & children. That is not a good thing. Do you need an explanation of WHY that is a good thing?


As they attempted to enter our country illegally against our wishes, they're right at home there I reckon!



No they didn't.
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Reply #69 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:01pm
 
Honestly what do you think happens to refugees when they don't come to Australia? They vanish into the ether?

The fact you conservatives are trotting out the same debunked myths over and over again (Queue jumping, economic refugees, correct channels) shows that you simply don't actually care about Refugees, you use this situation as a xenophobic political club then cry crocodile tears when things don't go your way.

You could bring in every refugee that comes on a boat and stick them on welfare for decades for the cost of the Offshore detention solution. You bring up Europe, but ignore that Europe has taken vastly more people and Europe is geographically easier to get too.

Also you block climate change policy and support wars in the middle east which causes these major issues to begin with, the Syrian Civil War started with a very unusual, very harsh drought that caused the cities to be overburdened with rural people fleeing collapsing water supplies, it could easy be called the first climate conflict.
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Reply #70 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:07pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 12:25pm:
Maqqa wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 12:20pm:
They are ASYLUM seekers

They are not WEALTH seekers

So go to the nearest UN Refugee Convention signatories (countries)

There are 14 countries they can seen ASYLUM that are closer than Australia


Why should they?

If you were in their position, wouldn't you aim for the best possible outcome or, do you have a habit of just settlling for second best?




Would you drag your family onto a leaky boat across a dangerous stretch of sea because you feared for your life, or because you think the grass is greener on the other side? The same can be said of those traipsing across Europe right now. They aren't seeking safe haven. they're seeking a more comfortable life. The UNHCR itself deems people who do that to not have a genuine claim for refugee status.


You have no F**king clue.

Yeah, lets go into a overburderened refugee camp in Turkey or Jordan that are already running out of food and water, your stuck in a tent for probably decades and your children have no access to education and little to no access to medicine. So great. Or how about flee into Pakistan where refugees are rounded up and executed by the Taliban.

Yep, how about they stay in Indonesia where they are forced into a life of crime and their children can't get medical access or education.

The level of delusion you conservatives have is astounding. You seem to think that refugees hop on a cruise ship or some poo and then roll around living in luxury until they find a country they like. Not surprising though since you conservatives seem to have no grasp on the working class in your own country.
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Reply #71 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:28pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 6:53pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 2:00pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:47pm:
Lawless alright!

In case this slipped past you, the Christmas Island Immigration Reception and Processing Centre, aka Detention Centre, purpose built by Howard to handle asylum seekers,is undergoing a big change. (thought the Pacific NonSolution worked so perfectly? In the tiny minds of RWNJs perhaps.)

In May this year the government announced that due to the need to save money it was no longer to be used for it’s original purpose. Tony had stopped the boats and there was no need for it. I would think it would have been preferable to move the poor souls trapped on Manus Island and Nauru there, to wait to be processed and resettled, and save billions by closing the hellholes, but I’m not the government. Instead asylum seekers in the detention centre began to be transferred to Nauru and Manus.

The official line was parts of the place would be closed with the most prison-like section to be used as a ‘contigency’ from next year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/christmas-island-detention-centre-to-close...

It soon became clear that the facility was increasingly being used as a gaol, a modern-day prison hulk, holding people who had had their visas cancelled, people the government had decided to deport or detain as part of their new purge.

Christmas Island detention centre being used to hold bikies, murderers with cancelled visas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/problem-immigration-detainees-sent-to-chri...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


Naturally these prisoners, many of whom had been living in Australia for decades, were not happy about being incarcerated indefinitely on an island, away from their friends, families and lawyers. Some were pretty dodgy types anyway. Things became violent. This caused a lot of worry for asylum seekers still on the island. The government is is no hurry to move them all.

Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/influx-of-501s-into-detent...

Too many prisoners are New Zealanders.
Raised in Australia, he’s among a wave of Kiwis held on Christmas Island as visas revoked
http://www.smh.com.au/national/kiwis-held-on-christmas-island-as-visas-revoked-2...
They broke the law and our immigration laws are very clear on the consequences.


The NZ government is very worried about all this. John Key has expressed his concerns to AllBull, who has done nothing. Our government doesn’t give a frack. Dutton, who must have got his jollies as a kid pulling wings off butterflies and torturing small animals, uses the place as his own private torture chamber while AllBull looks the other way.

One more thing – the place is run by Serco.
http://www.serco-ap.com.au/our-services/our-work/immigration-services/
Maybe it should be run by the Greens?


Told you Mal is worse than abbott.
They're both far better than Rudd or Gillard.



I guess things have to be put in words of one syllable for the dunce of OzPol.

They are putting violent criminals with Asylum Seekers imprisoned there. Asylum seeker families, men, women & children. That is not a good thing. Do you need an explanation of WHY that is a good thing?


As they attempted to enter our country illegally against our wishes, they're right at home there I reckon!

It is not illegal to seek asylum.
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Reply #72 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:31pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:28pm:
It is not illegal to seek asylum.


No need to post that, they know, they've been told a billion times, they don't care. They are purposing lying because "tell a lie enough times and it becomes truth".
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Reply #73 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 8:11pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 1:08pm:
The same can be said of those traipsing across Europe right now. They aren't seeking safe haven. they're seeking a more comfortable life.


Outrageous!

Seeking a more comfortable life?

Bring back the noose.

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Reply #74 - Oct 31st, 2015 at 8:52pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:28pm:
It is not illegal to seek asylum.


No need to post that, they know, they've been told a billion times, they don't care. They are purposing lying because "tell a lie enough times and it becomes truth".

Liberal Party song book.

They have read and believed the crap in the Daily Toilet so often that their brains have turned into jelly.
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