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Reply #45 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:45am

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:41am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:36am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:30am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:27am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:47am:

Asylum seeking is a way for people with no education to bypass the Australian point system for settlement.

Asylum seeking has nothing to do with education, or wealth.

So why don't they settle in one of the countries they pass through??

They aren't as good as Australia.

In wealth???? Huh

Australia is a better place to live, overall.

Don't you agree?

If I was looking for a peaceful place I wouldn't be thinking about private schools for my kids and shopping malls.

Well, some people just have more ambition than others.

We've gone over this same rubbish a million times numpty. Seeing that most refugees are unemployable because they are elderly and can't speak English how would Australia afford the costs if you and your numpty kind opened the floodgates??

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Can answer the question I see numpty. NEXT!!!!

can't

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 145104 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #46 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:47am double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:45am: can't Try something that isn't a complex fallacy.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98819	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #47 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:47am You were doing well there for a minute, Homo.
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Reply #48 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:48am

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:30am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:27am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:47am:

Asylum seeking is a way for people with no education to bypass the Australian point system for settlement.

Asylum seeking has nothing to do with education, or wealth.

So why don't they settle in one of the countries they pass through??

They aren't as good as Australia.

In wealth???? Huh

Australia is a better place to live, overall.

Don't you agree?

If I was looking for a peaceful place I wouldn't be thinking about private schools for my kids and shopping malls.

Yes Indonesia for example is much better where they can never be legally accepted the children can not go to school at all and the parents can not legally work. But then there is the small problems of food clothing and survival.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #49 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:52am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:48am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:30am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:27am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:47am:

Asylum seeking is a way for people with no education to bypass the Australian point system for settlement.

Asylum seeking has nothing to do with education, or wealth.

So why don't they settle in one of the countries they pass through??

They aren't as good as Australia.

In wealth???? Huh

Australia is a better place to live, overall.

Don't you agree?

If I was looking for a peaceful place I wouldn't be thinking about private schools for my kids and shopping malls.

Yes Indonesia for example is much better where they can never be legally accepted the children can not go to school at all and the parents can not legally work. But then there is the small problems of food clothing and survival.

Loads of asylum seekers live in Malaysia, Indonesia etc . They do alright. They are muslims in a muslim country.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98819	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #50 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:15pm How do you know they do alright? And what’s Muslim got to do with it? We’re not taking in refugees from the Philippines, Chile or Ghana, nor do we care if they’re Christians.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #51 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:20pm They are ASYLUM seekers They are not WEALTH seekers So go to the nearest UN Refugee Convention signatories (countries) There are 14 countries they can seen ASYLUM that are closer than Australia
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #52 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:41am: Have you stopped beating your wife? Unflushable turd
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98819	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #53 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:24pm Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:41am: Have you stopped beating your wife? Unflushable turd Thanks, dear boy, I couldn’t eat another thing.
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Reply #54 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:25pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:20pm:

They are ASYLUM seekers

They are not WEALTH seekers

So go to the nearest UN Refugee Convention signatories (countries)

There are 14 countries they can seen ASYLUM that are closer than Australia

Why should they?

If you were in their position, wouldn't you aim for the best possible outcome or, do you have a habit of just settlling for second best?

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Reply #55 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:09am:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 8:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 8:20am:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 1:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:22am:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:27am:

Under ALP's soft stance on illegals - thousands died trying to get onto Australian soil on leaky boats

Under 3 years of LIB government - I would hazard a guess that no more than 5 have died.

We want refugees in Australia - but they must go through the normal legal channel. Go through the process like everyone else.

If you go through illegal means - you can F*ck off. You aint setting foot on Australian soil

Seeking asylum, in a boat, isn't illegal.

It's actually one of the normal, legal channels.

It is if they aren't real asylum seekers but country shoppers.

If they say they are seeking asylum, they are asylum seekers.

Wrong, unflushable. They had asylum in Turkey, Jordan, Serbia, etc.

They are seeking permanent settlement and benefits for life.

If they say they are seeking asylum, they are asylum seekers.

This is an indisputable fact.

The majority are lying. They are not interested in mere asylum, they want, demand permanent migration.
Offer them asylum only (ie temporary visas) and they will riot.

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Reply #56 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:20pm:

They are ASYLUM seekers

They are not WEALTH seekers

So go to the nearest UN Refugee Convention signatories (countries)

There are 14 countries they can seen ASYLUM that are closer than Australia

Why should they?

If you were in their position, wouldn't you aim for the best possible outcome or, do you have a habit of just settlling for second best?

Second best is measured on economic grounds

Refugee as per the Refugee Convention is based on fleeing persecution of the country they came from and not economics

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #57 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:42pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:20pm:

They are ASYLUM seekers

They are not WEALTH seekers

So go to the nearest UN Refugee Convention signatories (countries)

There are 14 countries they can seen ASYLUM that are closer than Australia

Why should they?

If you were in their position, wouldn't you aim for the best possible outcome or, do you have a habit of just settlling for second best?

Second best is measured on economic grounds

Refugee as per the Refugee Convention is based on fleeing persecution of the country they came from and not economics

I'm not talking about economics - I'm talking about Australia being a better country than the ones they pass through (or by).

There's nothing illegal about asylum seekers trying to reach the best possible country they can.

There's nothing wrong with it at all, in fact.

If I were in their position, I'd aim for the best.

If you're happy to settle, that's your prerogative.

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Reply #58 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:43pm

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:09am:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 8:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 8:20am:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 1:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:22am:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:27am:

Under ALP's soft stance on illegals - thousands died trying to get onto Australian soil on leaky boats

Under 3 years of LIB government - I would hazard a guess that no more than 5 have died.

We want refugees in Australia - but they must go through the normal legal channel. Go through the process like everyone else.

If you go through illegal means - you can F*ck off. You aint setting foot on Australian soil

Seeking asylum, in a boat, isn't illegal.

It's actually one of the normal, legal channels.

It is if they aren't real asylum seekers but country shoppers.

If they say they are seeking asylum, they are asylum seekers.

Wrong, unflushable. They had asylum in Turkey, Jordan, Serbia, etc.

They are seeking permanent settlement and benefits for life.

If they say they are seeking asylum, they are asylum seekers.

This is an indisputable fact.

The majority are lying.

Been out talking to them, have you?

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Reply #59 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 1:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:20pm:

They are ASYLUM seekers

They are not WEALTH seekers

So go to the nearest UN Refugee Convention signatories (countries)

There are 14 countries they can seen ASYLUM that are closer than Australia

Why should they?

If you were in their position, wouldn't you aim for the best possible outcome or, do you have a habit of just settlling for second best?

Would you drag your family onto a leaky boat across a dangerous stretch of sea because you feared for your life, or because you think the grass is greener on the other side? The same can be said of those traipsing across Europe right now. They aren't seeking safe haven. they're seeking a more comfortable life. The UNHCR itself deems people who do that to not have a genuine claim for refugee status.

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