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Reply #60 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:27pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 2:52pm:
http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/survivor-of-alleged-elite-paedophile-ring-...

Survivor of alleged elite paedophile ring including former prime minister speaks out


OCTOBER 23, 20152:04PM

A WOMAN claiming to be the victim of a “VIP paedophile ring”, which involved three former prime ministers, has alleged she was prostituted to “paedophile parties” at Parliament House in Canberra.
Speaking to media in Sydney, Fiona Barnett detailed her alleged abuse by the alleged elite paedophile ring 40 years ago.
The 45-year-old said she was abused by the ring, which included high-ranking politicians, police and members of the judiciary, at the age of five and claimed there were thousands of other victims.
“My experiences were horrific beyond words,” she said. “But the way I’ve been treated for reporting the crimes I witnessed and experienced has been far worse than my original abuse experiences.”


I'm calling bullshit.

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Reply #61 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:35pm
 
Do a Google on Fiona Barnett victim and you will find an array of Articles written by her.  I read the first, and was immediately struck with the impression that she is a seasoned victim of all sorts of wild things.
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Reply #62 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:46pm
 
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/qld-child-porn-maker-wins-priso...

Qld child porn maker wins prison appeal


an hour ago
AAP

A CHURCH-GOER who pleaded guilty to taking pornographic photographs of a young relative as she slept has successfully appealed his prison sentence.

THE man was sentenced to four months behind bars for numerous charges, including making child exploitation material, in June this year.

It came more than a decade after the man, then aged 22, first snuck into his young sister-in-law's room at night to take pictures of her sleeping.
The 12-year-old initially thought the flash of the camera was lightning from a storm, but noticed she often had to tug down her pyjamas after waking to the light.
The night-time visits continued to the point when the girl, then aged about 15, would be woken by the man lifting up the bra she'd started wearing to bed.
When she told her parents about it they thought her complaint might've been a "misunderstanding".
But years later, a separate brother-in-law stumbled upon a folder on the man's computer filled with hundreds of pictures of the teenager.
He was shocked by the discovery and decided to burn a CD of the pictures as evidence which was ultimately delivered to the church-going family's bishop.
The CD was later destroyed by the man's father.
About four years later, his victim decided to pursue child exploitation charges and the man was eventually sentenced to one year's imprisonment, suspended after four months.
In a self-represented challenge in Queensland's Court of Appeal, he successfully argued this had been "manifestly excessive".
Justice Peter Lyons noted he had no other criminal history, had made substantial efforts to rehabilitate himself and had been punished by his church, reasons published on Friday revealed.
The court ordered the initial sentence be entirely suspended from now on.
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Reply #63 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:51pm
 
http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2014/07/11/has-judge-garry-neilson-outed-him...

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Circumstantial case that Judge Neilson is a paedophile

When Judge Garry Neilson started making the scandalous statements in court he knew what would happen. All judicial officers know what they say in court is recorded and dissected by many parties including the media and they are fully aware of the consequences. They also know what they say in court can be used as grounds for an appeal and then three judges will have a good look at what they said. Judge Neilson would have been fully aware that an appeal was guaranteed once he said what he did. So what was Judge Neilson’s reason for knowingly ending his own career?

1. It is one thing to defend a person accused of being a paedophile as they might not be guilty but that is defending the person not the act. The only people that I have heard of that defend paedophilia as an act or as a crime is paedophiles themselves. I have never heard of anyone else defending it as an act or as a crime.

2. Judge Neilson knew exactly what he was doing and he knew it would get media attention. It seems like a deliberate rallying call to other paedophiles to support the issue as they are under attack from the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse which is currently in progress. (Click here to read more on their website)

3. Judge Neilson must be close to the mandatory retirement age of 70 so he would know there is little damage that can be done to him from a financial or career viewpoint. He will still get the full pension and I suspect this is part of his thinking in deciding to say what he has and when.

4. Judge Neilson should have been investigated previously given his scandalous judgement in the matter where he “gave an incestuous rapist a lighter sentence” as quoted above.

5. Judge Neilson could and should be charged with the criminal offence of Scandalising the Court as he would have been fully aware that he was undermining the public’s confidence in the courts before he said what he did. So why does he do it? In my view only a paedophile would say and do what he did knowing he was damaging the judiciaries reputation.

Peter Hollingworth when he was Governor-General of Australia defended a paedophile priest and Hollingworth was forced to resign. Neilson should not be given the luxury of resigning and should be sacked as soon as possible.

I spoke to the Attorney-General’s office on Thursday regarding Judge Neilson and they asked for my feedback (I am told they asked for everyone’s feedback who called that day as the matter had only been reported in the media a few hours).

I said words to the effect that “there is a good chance that Judge Garry Neilson is a paedophile as they get off on pushing the boundaries and he would have been fully aware that there would be media attention regarding his comments. He has to go as he damages the reputation of all judges and the courts while he is still a judge.” My viewpoint would not have been greatly different from most people I suspect.

I should give credit where it is due as the relatively new Attorney-General Brad Hazzard has moved fast and Justice Nielson has now been suspended from hearing criminal matters.
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Reply #64 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:54pm
 
Come on Mr Light.  We've seen it all before.  You are just wasting Forum bandwidth as well as your time, because everyone who is interested has read them all before!
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Reply #65 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:54pm
 
Aussie2 wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 5:54pm:
Come on Mr Light.  We've seen it all before.  You are just wasting Forum bandwidth as well as your time, because everyone who is interested has read them all before!





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_Guest_House_child_abuse_scandal

Elm Guest House child abuse scandal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Elm Guest House child abuse scandal arose from claims of sexual abuse and grooming of children at parties held at the former Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane, near Barnes Common in south-west London during the late 1970s and 1980s. Prominent British men alleged to have attended the Guest House include former government ministers, senior MPs, top police officers, judges, pop stars, and people with links to the Royal Households.[1]

An investigation, Operation Fairbank, which was led by the Metropolitan Police Service, started in late 2012. The investigation was a "scoping exercise" aimed at a "preliminary assessment of the evidence rather than a formal inquiry".[2] The existence of the operation was confirmed on 12 December 2012, after operating in secret for several weeks.[2] A full criminal investigation, Operation Fernbridge, was launched in February 2013 as a result of allegations arising from Operation Fairbank.[3] In November 2014 Operation Midland was set up to examine claims of a possible homicide,[4] later extended to cover allegations of three murders and activities at the Dolphin Square development in Pimlico and elsewhere.[5]

Elm Guest House was allegedly used by a Westminster paedophile ring.[6] The allegations of an establishment paedophile ring are part of a complex multi-agency investigation.[7] Prominent people who attended parties at Elm Guest House are alleged to have included the Liberal MP Sir Cyril Smith, the Conservative MP Sir Nicholas Fairbairn,[8] the Soviet spy Anthony Blunt, the former British diplomat Sir Peter Hayman, and the Foreign Office barrister Colin Peters, who was later jailed in 1989 for being part of a network which abused over a hundred boys.[7][9][10] According to The Independent, other alleged visitors to the guesthouse include a Sinn Féin politician, a Labour MP and several Conservative politicians.[11][1] During 2014 and 2015, allegations against several other leading politicians of the period, mostly now deceased, were made public in the British press.

In 2015, the Independent Police Complaints Commission began investigating claims that the Metropolitan Police had suppressed evidence of child sexual abuse and prevented the investigation of some allegations between 1970 and 2005, because of the alleged involvement of police officers and MPs.[12]

In addition to eight guest rooms, facilities at the three-storey Elm Guest House included a sauna, solarium and video studio.[13][9] The Edwardian house is now a private residence, and the current occupants are not connected to the allegations.[14]

sounds very similar ...

and i can imagine there were many whom shouted down the evidence as it was brought forth in the past ..

history repeats it would seem

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Reply #66 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 6:02pm
 
What does that BS have to do former PMs? All this Sh it does is make it harder for real victims of this heinous crime to get any justice. You're as bad as the kiddy fiddlers doing the crime. Roll Eyes
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Reply #67 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 6:11pm
 
Look, let’s all take a deep breath and blame Islam.

Forgive them.
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Reply #68 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:39pm
 
Neferti wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 3:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 3:50pm:
I hope a new law comes in so all pedophiles can be hanged in public.

That's what they deserve.


Hanging is too good for that lot. NAME & SHAME them and stick them on a Public Register, complete with their address,  so that everybody knows IF you have kiddie fiddler living in your street.



No - public hanging where people draw lots to

see who will be the lucky one to draw the pin.
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Reply #69 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 9:12pm
 
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Reply #70 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 9:35pm
 
http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/how-paedophile-rings-operate-in-australia/...

How paedophile rings operate in Australia


IT’S a terrifying thought.
A group of people who appear to be decent, hardworking members of society, but who in reality hide behind that facade to act on their deviant sexual desires for children.
Paedophiles are experts at deception and carefully select their victims who, more often than not, fly under the radar, unpunished, for decades. And sometimes forever.
The worst of them don’t just abuse their victims — they share and trade them with other paedophiles like objects.
Several experts spoken to by news.com.au say these paedophile rings are far more common than most Australians would realise. Last week, the head of the NSW Homicide Squad, Detective Superintendent Michael Willing revealed a shocking twist in the investigation into the disappearance of William Tyrrell — there could be a paedophile ring operating on the mid-north coast of New South Wales where the three-year-old was last seen.
“We have information that involves the possibility that there is a paedophile ring that is operating and that may be connected to William’s disappearance. We are vigorously pursuing that information, I can tell you that.”

Dr Freda Briggs, Emeritus Professor in Child Development at the University of South Australia, said paedophile rings were happening in Australia and had been for years.
She’d interviewed victims who told of her of abuse that started when they were young children and didn’t stop until their mid-teens. “Many of the victims are young boys who [more so than girls] tend not to report it.”
Their abusers were “wealthy men across all walks of life” who you wouldn’t normally suspect were capable of such appalling behaviour.
Dr Briggs said the internet had helped these paedophiles communicate with each other and share images of abused children online.
“It’s something that wasn’t there before, so it was a lot harder for them. Now there are websites that you can only be a member of if you upload pictures of children, sometimes thousands of them.”
“You just have to know where to look. It’s easy for them to get involved.”
She’d been told by police that overseas paedophiles saw Australia as an opportunity because of perceived weaker sentencing.
“They catch people in the US who are coming here to get a child.”
It was her belief the subject, as unpleasant as it was, needed to be spoken about more.
“It’s not nice at all and for most people you’ll never expect it to happen to you or your child ... It’s like a road accident - it happens to other people.”


Paedophiles get away with their crimes because they operate “under the radar” and were “experts at deception”.
“They’re masters at manipulation and manipulate everyone around the safety of children.”
That was no more evident when people were charged with child sex crimes. Dr Briggs said the usual reaction was one of utter disbelief.
“Nobody wants to believe they’re guilty of it.”
She told news.com.au it was important to understand how these criminals worked because that meant they could be stopped and the cycle of abuse was broken. Many paedophiles were themselves “damaged” by sexual predators.
One of the reasons some victims went on to become abusers themselves and others didn’t could be directly related to how often they were abused and for what length of time.
Criminologist Carol Ronken, research manager at children’s charity Bravehearts, said part of the difficulty in combating paedophiles and busting the rings open was people didn’t know what they were looking for.


“It’s frustrating, what the perception of an offender is. People have this idea of what a paedophile looks like but that often isn’t the reality.”
She hadn’t seen evidence of paedophile rings but was aware they “supported each other” — and their modus operandi was built around calculating moves to win the trust of children and their family, then isolate them and finally, abuse them.
Paedophiles could strike at any time when an opportunity presented itself, such as what may have happened to William Tyrrell and what did happen to Queensland 13-year-old Daniel Morcombe in 2003, who was abducted and murdered by paedophile Brett Cowan.
But Ms Ronken said others carefully lay the foundations of their crimes by integrating with a community. It was cunning and “calculating” behaviour.
She agreed education was the key to stopping the scourge of paedophiles and ensuring children knew it was okay to tell someone if they were being abused.
Because the statistics show, if the abuse goes unnoticed, then another small child could pay for it many years later.
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Reply #71 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 9:46pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 9:12pm:
Pin them.


crucify them
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Reply #72 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 10:06pm
 
She's been traumatized and her accounts appear distorted.

There's probably a lot of truth in her claims.

The issue is where in all this....is the truth?





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Reply #73 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 10:36pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 9:46pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 9:12pm:
Pin them.


crucify them


Hang them.
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Reply #74 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 10:43pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 10:06pm:
She's been traumatized and her accounts appear distorted.

There's probably a lot of truth in her claims.



Let’s see, shall we? A clandestine organisation involving three ex-PMs that kidnapped, tortured and raped children in the mid 1970s, all under the nose of the Federal/NSW Police, with no searches of missing persons records or missing children to back up any of the claim.

And all disclosed by one woman and reported in News Ltd media.

Yes, dear, I can see what you mean. There’re probably a lot of truth in the claims.
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