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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #615 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:35am It is both, in the process of leaving or just after, very little difference and continuing this stupid fight in this topic is terrible behaviour, are you both pre pubescent? Take it outside. Amadd, a little honesty from women on men, now that would be interesting, that said more honesty is needed.
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Reply #616 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:40am

Agnes wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:35am:

It is both, in the process of leaving or just after, very little difference and continuing this stupid fight in this topic is terrible behaviour, are you both pre pubescent?

Take it outside.

Amadd, a little honesty from women on men, now that would be interesting, that said more honesty is needed.

No it's not both. There are strategies in place to help a woman leave but not strategies in place to help a woman after she has left.

Aside from AVO's.. which can be ineffectual.

It is important to note that the most dangerous time for a woman leaving a domestic violence situation is after she has left it and the immediate protection strategies are no longer in place.

In the proceeding weeks and months are the most dangerous times for the woman and the children.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #617 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:40am Da proof is in da pudding. Please show me where I am misguided. Girls, you really need to man up!
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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #618 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:43am Amadd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:40am: Da proof is in da pudding. Please show me where I am misguided. Girls, you really need to man up! Everything you said is a load of old cobblers. Where would you have me start?
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #619 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:45am Girls, you really need to man up and admit the truth. You are bitches to each other. You hate your fellow woman. Your entire purpose in life is to make other women jealous. True or not?
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Reply #620 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:47am

Amadd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:45am:

Girls, you really need to man up and admit the truth.

You are bitches to each other. You hate your fellow woman.

Your entire purpose in life is to make other women jealous.

True or not?

Not.

When is the last time you actually had a reasonable exchange with a woman?

I'm guessing you never have.

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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #621 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:50am Anyway, how are your theories about the decay of modern woman relevant to a domestic violence thread?
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Reply #622 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:52am

There are some that will be honest. But that doesn't mean that they will change their ways, nor would I expect it.

My view is to realize life as it is, not how you'd like it to be.

...and it's not about any "decay" of modern women, it's a perpetuation.

DV and all of it's forms will always be around as long as people remain free.

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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #623 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:55am Amadd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:52am: There are some that will be honest. But that doesn't mean that they will change their ways, nor would I expect it. My view is to realize life as it is, not how you'd like it to be. Your understanding of life as it is is wanting.
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Reply #624 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:57am

I'm sorry Mothra, there is no classic text book rules about this.. it is both and I have known women who have experienced it both ways- not all women rely on avo's, they are almost worthless in the real word..a man who is intent on wrecking you takes no notice there fore avo's carry little weight. Btw most men if not all , who come on this thread are not here to serioulsy argue the point, they are just making a case for men somehow being the victim, in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #625 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:59am Amadd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:45am: Girls, you really need to man up and admit the truth. You are bitches to each other. You hate your fellow woman. Your entire purpose in life is to make other women jealous. True or not? Not if your even part way evolved.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #626 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:59am Then you are the one who professes change. Let me know how you go with that. The truth is, that you do nothing to change anything. You just whinge.
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Reply #627 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 2:11am

Agnes wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 1:57am:

I'm sorry Mothra, there is no classic text book rules about this.. it is both and I have known women who have experienced it both ways- not all women rely on avo's, they are almost worthless in the real word..a man who is intent on wrecking you takes no notice there fore avo's carry little weight. Btw most men if not all , who come on this thread are not here to serioulsy argue the point, they are just making a case for men somehow being the victim, in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

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Agnes, there are protections in place for a woman leaving a domestic violence situation. There are strategies that ease her transit. Shelters can provide her protection,

It is after that that the most danger arises. After the protection of the immediate sanctuary dissolves.

The most dangerous time for a woman and her children is after they have left the relationship. This is an irrefutable fact.

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Reply #628 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 2:30am

Keep massaging those egos...until those presses become harder and harder, until you are inflicting pain upon your fellow woman...just as you were born to do.
You and Agnes have no real friendship. In no time at all, you'll be at each other trying to prove who is the more worthy to men.

..And where is the sanctuary for the hard working husband who comes home to see his wife blowing the neighbor because he just doesn't understand those "Mills and Boon" novels?

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Reply #629 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 6:58am

Thing is this - in most cases this 'trying to get out' is, in reality, nothing more than 'not feeling validated any more' in the marriage/relationship - and has nothing to do with any violence.

So when a woman 'wants to find herself' etc, it is not she who is the victim - it is those she is leaving, who, in most cases on factual data, have done nothing wrong other than not cater to her whims.

Is it any wonder that the impending disaster to family, home, and all the things built up over the years can be the cause of a response of trying to constrain that woman?

Perhaps we need to look again at the Grappler policy of installing the rule that the person who wishes to leave, in the absence of genuine evidence of genuine abuse, goes without the family, their home and so forth and heads out into the big wide world to 'find herself' (or himself in the minority of cases), and pays child support and has visiting rights until they come to their senses.

The current claiming of every ebb and flow of a relationship in the real world and between two allegedly adult and consenting people, as 'violence' but only against one, simply has to cease and sense be allowed to prevail.

The alternative is war between men and women, with the State setting fair to cop its share of the fighting and the casualties, since it is the main instigator of this absurd current approach.

EVERYONE needs to take a few steps back - take a few deep breaths, and actually start to apply reason for a change - and not just continue with this insane control of relationships by emotion.

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