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Reply #600 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:22pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Nope. You are misinformed. It is immediately after.

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Reply #601 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:38pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Mothra is quite correct. Perpetrators of domestic violence who kill their victims do so when they have lost control, for the most part. When a victim has removed themselves and/or their children, from the situation or when a woman finds a new partner, they are in more danger than at any other time.

Most women who are leaving know the danger, or even overestimate it because that is what happens to victims....perpetrators seem omnipotent. As a result, victims leave when its as safe as possible.

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Reply #602 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:45pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Mothra is quite correct. Perpetrators of domestic violence who kill their victims do so when they have lost control, for the most part. When a victim has removed themselves and/or their children, from the situation or when a woman finds a new partner, they are in more danger than at any other time.

Most women who are leaving know the danger, or even overestimate it because that is what happens to victims....perpetrators seem omnipotent. As a result, victims leave when its as safe as possible.

Correct. And there are strategies in place to help a woman leave safely, although not as many as there should be.

It is in the time after that women and children are most at risk.

And again, it is all about power. Power over that woman and the children.

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Reply #603 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:15am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Mothra is quite correct. Perpetrators of domestic violence who kill their victims do so when they have lost control, for the most part. When a victim has removed themselves and/or their children, from the situation or when a woman finds a new partner, they are in more danger than at any other time.

Most women who are leaving know the danger, or even overestimate it because that is what happens to victims....perpetrators seem omnipotent. As a result, victims leave when its as safe as possible.

No. It is in the process of trying to get out....that women face the most dangerous period within a DV relationship.

Once out, they are safER but yeah they are still a long way from being and feeling safe.

Now re the loss of power and control ... it starts where? At the point where a woman starts trying to leave.

Anyway....there's a lot of women who are no longer with us. I know these women only as case studies. Case studies of women who tried but could not get out alive.

Their struggle... Cry

The whole thing makes me so angry.

And

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Reply #604 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:20am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Mothra is quite correct. Perpetrators of domestic violence who kill their victims do so when they have lost control, for the most part. When a victim has removed themselves and/or their children, from the situation or when a woman finds a new partner, they are in more danger than at any other time.

Most women who are leaving know the danger, or even overestimate it because that is what happens to victims....perpetrators seem omnipotent. As a result, victims leave when its as safe as possible.

No. It is in the process of trying to get out....that women face the most dangerous period within a DV relationship.

Once out, they are safER but yeah they are still a long way from being and feeling safe.

Now re the loss of power and control ... it starts where? At the point where a woman starts trying to leave.

Anyway....there's a lot of women who are no longer with us. I know these women only as case studies. Case studies of women who tried but could not get out alive.

Their struggle... Cry

The whole thing makes me so angry.

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No. You are passing on erroneous information.

The most dangerous time is after the break up.

There are support structures in place to facilitate the break-up ... nothing afterwards aside from often useless AVO's.

And again, it is about power. The antagonist is provoked by the removal of his victim directly afterwards. He seeks to reclaim his power.

It is bad form to be giving out bad information. You should stop that Lisa.

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Reply #605 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:35am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=v15h6HcnNAAC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=most+dange...

Physical Danger

The most dangerous time in a violent relationship is when the victim ATTEMPTS TO LEAVE.

Ok....night.

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Reply #606 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:37am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=v15h6HcnNAAC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=most+dange...

Physical Danger

The most dangerous time in a violent relationship is when the victim ATTEMPTS TO LEAVE.

Ok....night.

Nope. Wrong.

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Reply #607 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:42am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=v15h6HcnNAAC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=most+dange...

Physical Danger

The most dangerous time in a violent relationship is when the victim ATTEMPTS TO LEAVE.

Ok....night.

Are you googling Lisa? Don;t you look down on that?

Oh well. When it serves i suppose.

Only it didn't serve you very well. Keep trying.

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Reply #608 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:42am

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:20am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Mothra is quite correct. Perpetrators of domestic violence who kill their victims do so when they have lost control, for the most part. When a victim has removed themselves and/or their children, from the situation or when a woman finds a new partner, they are in more danger than at any other time.

Most women who are leaving know the danger, or even overestimate it because that is what happens to victims....perpetrators seem omnipotent. As a result, victims leave when its as safe as possible.

No. It is in the process of trying to get out....that women face the most dangerous period within a DV relationship.

Once out, they are safER but yeah they are still a long way from being and feeling safe.

Now re the loss of power and control ... it starts where? At the point where a woman starts trying to leave.

Anyway....there's a lot of women who are no longer with us. I know these women only as case studies. Case studies of women who tried but could not get out alive.

Their struggle... Cry

The whole thing makes me so angry.

And

No. You are passing on erroneous information.

The most dangerous time is after the break up.

There are support structures in place to facilitate the break-up ... nothing afterwards aside from often useless AVO's.

And again, it is about power. The antagonist is provoked by the removal of his victim directly afterwards. He seeks to reclaim his power.

It is bad form to be giving out bad information. You should stop that Lisa.

Umm no. Unlike you, I fully intend to continue giving out facts.

You on the other hand can and will no doubt continue to rant like a lunatic in here until 6 am as per your old Yahoo message board antics.

Flame/troll/vent all you like.

I care not.

Bye bye.

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Reply #609 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:43am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=v15h6HcnNAAC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=most+dange...

Physical Danger

The most dangerous time in a violent relationship is when the victim ATTEMPTS TO LEAVE.

Ok....night.

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Reply #610 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:52am

Get real. Women love to sell the drama and propagate lies.

There's nothing more a woman loves than being fought over. They really love that poo.

If they can sell the drama to their so called "friends" in order to make themselves appear the more sought after, then they will do so.
They instigate that poo all the time and they are either too blind or too stupid to even see the idiocy of their actions.

Let's face it. Western women are hardly a beast to admire. The world would be absolutely buggered if they were given real control. Luckily, they're just being played with.

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Reply #611 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:56am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:42am:

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:20am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

The most dangerous time is when a woman is TRYING to leave an abusive relationship.

If anyone doubts this fact, too bad.

It is however the case.

And as I've stated elsewhere, our case studies at Uni keep highlighting this recurring issue.

Mothra is quite correct. Perpetrators of domestic violence who kill their victims do so when they have lost control, for the most part. When a victim has removed themselves and/or their children, from the situation or when a woman finds a new partner, they are in more danger than at any other time.

Most women who are leaving know the danger, or even overestimate it because that is what happens to victims....perpetrators seem omnipotent. As a result, victims leave when its as safe as possible.

No. It is in the process of trying to get out....that women face the most dangerous period within a DV relationship.

Once out, they are safER but yeah they are still a long way from being and feeling safe.

Now re the loss of power and control ... it starts where? At the point where a woman starts trying to leave.

Anyway....there's a lot of women who are no longer with us. I know these women only as case studies. Case studies of women who tried but could not get out alive.

Their struggle... Cry

The whole thing makes me so angry.

And

No. You are passing on erroneous information.

The most dangerous time is after the break up.

There are support structures in place to facilitate the break-up ... nothing afterwards aside from often useless AVO's.

And again, it is about power. The antagonist is provoked by the removal of his victim directly afterwards. He seeks to reclaim his power.

It is bad form to be giving out bad information. You should stop that Lisa.

Umm no. Unlike you, I fully intend to continue giving out facts.

You on the other hand can and will no doubt continue to rant like a lunatic in here until 6 am as per your old Yahoo message board antics.

Flame/troll/vent all you like.

I care not.

Bye bye.

Attempts at character assassination will not help you here. It's you striking out against proven fact because your fantasy rubs up against it.

You are wrong and you are passing out false information.

It is to the detriment of any woman posting on here that finds herself in this situation. It is to the detriment of anybody wanting to understand the situation completely.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Reply #612 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:57am

Amadd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 12:52am:

Get real. Women love to sell the drama and propagate lies.

There's nothing more a woman loves than being fought over. They really love that poo.

If they can sell the drama to their so called "friends" in order to make themselves appear the more sought after, then they will do so.
They instigate that poo all the time and they are either too blind or too stupid to even see the idiocy of their actions.

Let's face it. Western women are hardly a beast to admire. The world would be absolutely buggered if they were given real control. Luckily, they're just being played with.

Lonely are you?

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