**equality.. is all there is...**

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:


Again with the "power" theories.
Power exists in all human interactions. It is not power itself that is bad, nor is a power imbalance bad - especially given that people have different talents and interests. It is behaviours that need examination. Undesirable behaviour is what should be the focus. Endless theorising about power won't correct domestic violence. Feminism's obsession with Foucault and other post-structuralist thinkers leads to a dead end.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 4:36pm:


Well there is good and bad in this I think.

Firstly I agree that the best option for young people is to learn their "standards" in the family home, but, as Maria has pointed out, not all family homes have the capacity to do this for a range of reasons (both good and bad).

So, we then need to rely on schools (unfortunately) a bit more to do the extra. Of course, we can't go giving any credit to teachers whilst we do this.

Now, there is already at least one external program going into schools that are run by a range of people relevant to the issues (Social workers, youth workers, Police, JIRT workers, nurses etc etc etc) in NSW schools at least. I think the "Love Bites" program actually might be a National program. Programs like this though have garbage funding so individual services have to scrimp in order to just provide a facilitator, perhaps the Government will more fully fund this.

The other side of the coin there is that a lot of the workers who present this program to young people at schools, also work with families. Joining the dots here, a lot of that work revolves around developing appropriate relationships within the family and sensible parenting practices.

Perhaps they are doomed to failure, of course, the alternative of not doing anything is certainly doomed to at the very best a deterioration (which arguably we are already living) of our communities.

The bottom line is, it is up to whole of Community to take responsibility for the community they want to have and go about achieving that. This involves family, school, church (if that is relevant to the community) and every other aspect of our shared community not only having some input, but owning some responsibility. Not just for themselves, but for where they live.

Stuff is happening.

It has already been pointed out, it takes time. Consider evolution, a very slow process. Perhaps we (as a species) can grow out of our adolescence soonish...

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:35pm:


Yep, and one of those key behaviours is "ABUSE" of power...

i.e. Exploiting a power imbalance to the point it causes harm to another person...

That's the exact behaviour being talked about when "power" is mentioned...

Could you seriously not work that out?

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:50pm:


Just because certain programs have not been successful in the past...that does not necessarily imply/guarantee that a future program will also meet the same fate.

If anything, past failures can help guide future program directives....and outcomes.

Ok?

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 7:23am:


CW was merely responding to Mothra's actual post.

Why?

Because we know that you think its only ok for you to interpolate/extrapolate other people's posts.

you know there was a time when


good manners
respect for others.
respect for others possessions
respect for age
opening doors for females.
allowing ladies to go first
being obedient
being seen and not heard

was all the normal part of every day life..


we dropped our standards somewhere along the way..

and look whats happened...

not a day goes by without some form of VIOLENCE infecting everything we stand for..

what will it be like in another 20 years.