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Reply #45 - Oct 2nd, 2015 at 6:31pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 12:38pm:
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Prosecutors to drop charges against CFMEU official and former NRL star John Lomax, an embarrassing outcome for #TURC http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/prosecutors-to-drop-charges-against-cfmeu-official-and-former-nrl-star-john-lomax-20151001-gjz3bh.html …

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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/prosecutors-to-drop-charges-against-cfm...

That is $80m of tax payer’s money well spent, eh?



the liberal party should be made to foot the bill for the RC';s.. .... both of them. They want political witch hunts, they should pay for  them.
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Reply #46 - Oct 2nd, 2015 at 9:07pm
 
Yeah. Party political crap like the Greens blocking the Malaysian Solution.
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Reply #47 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 7:30pm
 
One rule for the plebs, another very different one for the mates of the Liberal Party.

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If ever you needed proof #TURC is a biased sham, Counsel Assisting Jez Stoljar refusing to recommend charges against Kathy Jackson is it.— Dave Donovan (@davrosz) October 2, 2015


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Fresh criminal charges against Kathy Jackson not recommended

http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/royal-commissions-top-lawyer-refuses-to-recommend-criminal-charges-against-kathy-jackson-20151002-gk01kg

TURC recommended charges against John Lomax for nothing, yet KJ rorts millions and TURC lets her escape without any charges at all.

Showcase trial, at our expense.
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Reply #48 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 7:53pm
 
You may have mis-read or misunderstood.  Stoljar has already signalled recommendations of charges ~ that report you 'linked' is about further charges, it seems, covering the findings already made against Jackson in civil proceedings.  From that link:

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The trade union royal commission's top lawyer has decided not to recommend further criminal charges be pursued against disgraced union leader Kathy Jackson.

In a submission released on Friday, counsel assisting the commission, Jeremy Stoljar, said the decision was due to an ongoing police investigation into Ms Jackson's alleged criminal conduct. 

Mr Stoljar said royal commissioner, Dyson Heydon should support the findings of a recent adverse Federal Court judgment against Ms Jackson.

The civil proceedings resulted in Ms Jackson, the Health Services Union's former national secretary, being ordered to pay $1.4 million in compensation to the HSU.

Mr Stoljar said a Victorian Police taskforce was "conducting an investigation into whether criminal conduct had occurred " and it appeared unlikely to be concluded before the commission finished later this year.

"In the circumstances presently arising, including the likely further lapse of time before the completion of the police investigation and the complexity of the matters the subject of that investigation, these submissions will not seek to speculate on the outcome of the investigation by canvassing whether criminal conduct may have occurred in relation to the allegations against Katherine Jackson," the submission read.

However, the commission said on Friday night that Mr Stoljar's submission last year that Ms Jackson be referred to the Victorian Director of Public Prosecutions for potential charges over a $250,000 payment made by the Peter MacCallum cancer hospital would still be considered by Justice  Heydon. 

The submission on Friday argued Ms Jackson, former HSU president Michael Williamson and another former national secretary Craig Thomson have personally been responsible for the misappropriation of union member's funds totalling $2.4 million.

"It is further submitted in overview that this sorry history of misappropriation and deceit was facilitated by a culture then pervasive at the HSU, in which senior management operated with a sense of complete entitlement in respect of the use of members' money and at the same time without being subject to proper control or supervision," it said.               

While Ms Jackson  was "instrumental in revealing Michael Williamson's conduct", the submission claimed she "misused her position as a union official to further her own interests and her political ambitions in a variety of ways and over a period of years, resulting in the misappropriation from the HSU of in excess of $1.4 million."

It says the picture that emerged of the HSU under the three former officials was deeply disturbing.

''It is of a union in disarray. It is of a union in which the predominant culture among senior management was of entitlement, not service,'' it says.

''At the apex of the union was a triumvirate of persons who were prepared to further their own personal interests and political ambitions at the expense of the members.''

The commission also announced on Friday that former Australian Workers Union national secretary Paul Howes would be among a raft of witnesses called to give evidence later this month when the inquiry re-examines the AWU. It said he will appear as part of a fresh examination of the union's relationship with the company Cleanevent.

Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/royal-commissions-top-lawyer-refuses-to-recommend-criminal-charges-against-kathy-jackson-20151002-gk01kg#ixzz3nUs93DZO
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Reply #49 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 11:43am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 4:01pm:
Well, cods et al, it seems the Commission has no further interest in Shorten.  Gee, I wonder why?

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Nothing to answer to , has this ended up just like the non event Gillard witch hunt, well that was certainly an expensive taxpayer funded failure righties  Roll Eyes
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Reply #50 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:07pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 6:06pm:
cods wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 5:42pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 4:01pm:
Well, cods et al, it seems the Commission has no further interest in Shorten.  Gee, I wonder why?

Link.



"At this stage the commission does not propose to recall Mr Shorten as a witness," the commission said in a statement on Thursday.


I wonder what at this stage means to looney toons.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

oh thats right if he says it means will not... then thats what it means.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


If you read the article cods, you will have seen that the 'at this stage' was a caveat against the remote possibility that some third party - not the RC - wanted to ask him questions on the basis that they were adversely affected by the evidence he has already given.

Do I need to explain that any further for you?


Here ya go codsy wodsy baby ~

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The commission said on Tuesday that it had not received any applications to cross-examine Mr Shorten when the AWU hearings resume for 10 days from next Monday.

The commission had asked affected parties to state by Tuesday if they wished to apply to cross-examine amy person who had previously given evidence in relations to the AWU.

"The current intention of the commission is not to recall Mr Shorten, but he remains subject to his summons for the time being," the commission said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/bill-shorten-unlikely-to-reappear-before-royal-commission-20151006-gk2bvm#ixzz3nqronEQI
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Do you believe me now codsy wodsy baby?


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Reply #51 - Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:50pm
 
Aussie2 wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:47pm:
Its time wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
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the RC send out the invitations to appear at the ROYAL...

do you need that explained to YOU>


No I don't, cods.  Unlike you, I have been part of a Royal Commission (as in, professionally appeared before) and I know exactly how they function.

The present position is that the Commission itself has no ongoing interest in Shorten other than to consider whether anyone adversely affected by his evidence to date ought be given leave to cross-examine him.


Shorten is still there , could it be possible this expensive witch hunt will have the same outcome as Gillard and the presiding Liberal appointed judge will pass on a verdict of nothing more than an attempt to hand down a credibilty verdict, because they nothing i repeat nothing on them  Smiley




I think so.  I've even gone physically to the hearings, and I have seen what is happening there.  Aussie is right, and I don't get why people here doubt what he says.  It is spot on.



Just another pathetic example of Aussie using 1 of his multi nics to support another one of his nics.
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Reply #52 - Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:50pm:
Aussie2 wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:47pm:
Its time wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
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the RC send out the invitations to appear at the ROYAL...

do you need that explained to YOU>


No I don't, cods.  Unlike you, I have been part of a Royal Commission (as in, professionally appeared before) and I know exactly how they function.

The present position is that the Commission itself has no ongoing interest in Shorten other than to consider whether anyone adversely affected by his evidence to date ought be given leave to cross-examine him.


Shorten is still there , could it be possible this expensive witch hunt will have the same outcome as Gillard and the presiding Liberal appointed judge will pass on a verdict of nothing more than an attempt to hand down a credibilty verdict, because they nothing i repeat nothing on them  Smiley




I think so.  I've even gone physically to the hearings, and I have seen what is happening there.  Aussie is right, and I don't get why people here doubt what he says.  It is spot on.



Just another pathetic example of Aussie using 1 of his multi nics to support another one of his nics.



I already figured that one out, I thought I'd let it ride a bit and have some fun Grin Grin
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Reply #53 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 12:14am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:50pm:
Aussie2 wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:47pm:
Its time wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
Quote:
the RC send out the invitations to appear at the ROYAL...

do you need that explained to YOU>


No I don't, cods.  Unlike you, I have been part of a Royal Commission (as in, professionally appeared before) and I know exactly how they function.

The present position is that the Commission itself has no ongoing interest in Shorten other than to consider whether anyone adversely affected by his evidence to date ought be given leave to cross-examine him.


Shorten is still there , could it be possible this expensive witch hunt will have the same outcome as Gillard and the presiding Liberal appointed judge will pass on a verdict of nothing more than an attempt to hand down a credibilty verdict, because they nothing i repeat nothing on them  Smiley




I think so.  I've even gone physically to the hearings, and I have seen what is happening there.  Aussie is right, and I don't get why people here doubt what he says.  It is spot on.



Just another pathetic example of Aussie using 1 of his multi nics to support another one of his nics.


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Reply #54 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 12:16am
 
Crainial wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:56pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:50pm:
Aussie2 wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:47pm:
Its time wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 24th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
Quote:
the RC send out the invitations to appear at the ROYAL...

do you need that explained to YOU>


No I don't, cods.  Unlike you, I have been part of a Royal Commission (as in, professionally appeared before) and I know exactly how they function.

The present position is that the Commission itself has no ongoing interest in Shorten other than to consider whether anyone adversely affected by his evidence to date ought be given leave to cross-examine him.


Shorten is still there , could it be possible this expensive witch hunt will have the same outcome as Gillard and the presiding Liberal appointed judge will pass on a verdict of nothing more than an attempt to hand down a credibilty verdict, because they nothing i repeat nothing on them  Smiley




I think so.  I've even gone physically to the hearings, and I have seen what is happening there.  Aussie is right, and I don't get why people here doubt what he says.  It is spot on.



Just another pathetic example of Aussie using 1 of his multi nics to support another one of his nics.



I already figured that one out, I thought I'd let it ride a bit and have some fun Grin Grin


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Reply #55 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 12:38am
 
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