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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #15 - Sep 13^th, 2015 at 1:01pm

Swagman wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

yes it is. I'll show you

Considered = NO
Unconsidered = NO

same answer

ah not really Smithy....

A considered 'no' means that you considered the question, and then decided 'no'.

So thereby by considering the question, you actually did consider that AUST consider thorium nuclear power? So a considered 'no' is really a 'yes'. Cheesy

Which is not the same answer. Cheesy

yes, thank you for that Swag, I was well aware of what the terms meant but thanks for burying your head up your arse just the same

The answer is still the same. Australia should not consider thorium nuclear power

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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #17 - Sep 13^th, 2015 at 9:03pm

I'm in favor of Australian research into Thorium reactors.

see here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1439940798/105

And a comment from the above video:

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Here's the real reason Thorium Generators where scraped. Thorium is a fuel you can't monopolize, its' everywhere it will be like trying to monopolize sunshine. The energy cartels (barons) didn't like this at all because it would put them out of business and their globalist aspirations will be destroyed because if you don't control the power supply you don't control the world. Thorium fuel is also much easier to process you don't need complicated nuclear processing plants so all nations on Earth will have the necessary expertise to use Thorium energy to power their civilizations. The only way to stop Thorium energy from becoming a reality is to abort it, to kill it in the womb because once it's developed the genie is out of the bottle and there will be no stopping it from people have thorium energy. Thorium energy is also super cheap it will be a 2nd revolution, imagine all people of Earth having cheap clean power you could turn deserts into gardens it will end starvation and poverty. The globalists can't have this they can't control people who are independent and free. So Thorium was killed.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power? Reply #18 - Sep 13^th, 2015 at 10:26pm Of course we should consider thorium. But that does not mean I would support it for energy production without a lot of proof of its safety. Someone may say X is a fact; that is no reason to believe them, and that is what we have here so far.
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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #19 - Sep 13^th, 2015 at 10:43pm

issuevoter wrote on Sep 13^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

Of course we should consider thorium. But that does not mean I would support it for energy production without a lot of proof of its safety. Someone may say X is a fact; that is no reason to believe them, and that is what we have here so far.

I am only saying that we should build a research reactor.

Let's find out.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122445 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power? Reply #20 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 7:04am We could sell the Thorium & the technology. We have to come up with something better than flipping houses to make ourselves feel wealthy in a ponzi scheme leading no where.
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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #21 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 10:49am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

We could sell the Thorium & the technology.

We have to come up with something better than flipping houses
to make ourselves feel wealthy in a ponzi scheme leading no where.

The banks love flipping houses. The more debt there is in housing the more interest the bank gets which is why there are 5 banks in the top 20 Australian companies and not companies like General Electric or Westinghouse etc. These banks are only interested in property and personal credit and not much else. Aussies also have a big part to play in this with their obsession with owning as many houses as they can and then expecting some foreign corporation to setup here and give them a job.

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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #22 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 7:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

We could sell the Thorium & the technology.

We have to come up with something better than flipping houses
to make ourselves feel wealthy in a ponzi scheme leading no where.

The banks love flipping houses. The more debt there is in housing the more interest the bank gets which is why there are 5 banks in the top 20 Australian companies and not companies like General Electric or Westinghouse etc. These banks are only interested in property and personal credit and not much else. Aussies also have a big part to play in this with their obsession with owning as many houses as they can and then expecting some foreign corporation to setup here and give them a job.

Hear hear sir Nail,
No wonder Abbott is toast - what has he done for science?

he wrecked the CSIRO.

We have no Thorium technology.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122445 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power? Reply #24 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 8:12pm miketrees wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 7:41pm: You realise that Thor was just a movie right? Can you make an intelligent post?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122445 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power? Reply #25 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 11:02pm We need something like the Manhattan Project but devoted to peace & infinite energy. We need at least 10,000 scientists working around the clock & $billions poured into it. Whatever country which cracks the secrets of Thorium will rule this planet.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power? Reply #26 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 12:56am We have to devise a means to make thorium attractive to house flippers. It can then ride the housing boom.
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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #27 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 1:19am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 11:02pm:

We need something like the Manhattan Project but
devoted to peace & infinite energy.

We need at least 10,000 scientists working around the clock
& $billions poured into it.

Whatever country which cracks the secrets of Thorium will rule this planet.

Your right Sir Bobby - well almost.
A thorium reactor ran for 5 years at Oak Ridge, Tn, 50 years ago. Our knowledge is much greater now - I assume.
Although ultimately over - unity generators that can tap the infinite and inexhaustible quantum/vacuum field is better.

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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #28 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 6:47am

Richdude wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 1:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 11:02pm:

We need something like the Manhattan Project but
devoted to peace & infinite energy.

We need at least 10,000 scientists working around the clock
& $billions poured into it.

Whatever country which cracks the secrets of Thorium will rule this planet.

Your right Sir Bobby - well almost.
A thorium reactor ran for 5 years at Oak Ridge, Tn, 50 years ago. Our knowledge is much greater now - I assume.
Although ultimately over - unity generators that can tap the infinite and inexhaustible quantum/vacuum field is better.

Your knowledge of science is poor -

there is very little vacuum energy.

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Re: Should AUST consider thorium nuclear power?
Reply #29 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 8:48am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 6:47am:

Richdude wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 1:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 11:02pm:

We need something like the Manhattan Project but
devoted to peace & infinite energy.

We need at least 10,000 scientists working around the clock
& $billions poured into it.

Whatever country which cracks the secrets of Thorium will rule this planet.

Your right Sir Bobby - well almost.
A thorium reactor ran for 5 years at Oak Ridge, Tn, 50 years ago. Our knowledge is much greater now - I assume.
Although ultimately over - unity generators that can tap the infinite and inexhaustible quantum/vacuum field is better.

Your knowledge of science is poor -

there is very little vacuum energy.

forgiven

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Really? Evidence please.

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Question: Should Australia consider thorium nuclear power?
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