'Die Welte, Nov. 14, 2005 German

Stone Age trade routes yield spectacular finds on alpine pass – clothes, weapons and devices also from Roman time and the Middle Ages

Holger Kroker scientist of the archaeological service Berne found among other things a Roman booklet (garb latch):
In the hot summer of 2003 two wanderers from the Swiss Thun did not trust their eyes. They stood at the edge of an icefield at the Schnidejoch above Lenk, when they discovered a birchbark arrow-quiver. A dating with the archaeological service of the canton Berne showed that the birchbark is nearly 5000 years old. Meanwhile the Bernese archaeologist searched the area thoroughly and found some evidence for a much-used connection between that Bernese upper country and north Italy. The glacier between the today’s ski place Lenk in the north and Sitten, the principal place in the canton Wallis, had released pieces of find from four different epochs. For the archaeologists, the discovery is of comparable importance to Oetzi, the South Tirol glacier corpse.'

Yes, we know climate doesn't change, so glacial advance cannot be true. Therefore glacial retreat is unique.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2015 at 7:58pm:


clearly untrue...especially when the phenomenon involved occurs over very long time periods.

Whilst the monitoring technique itself can be routine and non-radical, the results themselves over long periods can be profound and enhance the understanding of how systems behave over long time periods.

Perhaps the politicians and bureaucrats who are making funding decisions should come look at their decisions more carefully.

In any case, it's common today for research funding to focus on industrial problems, motivated by short term profits and commercial outcomes. Fundamental research has taken a back seat and scientific progress has suffered as a result.

You only need to look at the Nobel Prize winners from the last 40 or 50 years and compare them to the previous Nobel prize winners. How does one compare a Physics Nobel prize given to Dirac over 80 years ago to one given recently for the invention of the Blue LED?

The bulk of Scientific research funding these days is directed by accountants, bankers, industrialists and clown puppet maggots.

The stench of regression is in the air

lee wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 2:15pm:


In that case:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 2:10pm:

How could I forget that one , lol 

The point is I don't think our country is the only one being disingenuous about the whole thing.

Sure trends are there but given the rates of change of different indicators at the moment you would perhaps think it money well spent to get a better handle on the glaciers which are famed for being the best indicator.