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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #15 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 1:04pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 11:49pm:

I've read the arguments and I've come to the conclusion that, like the GST, the levy should be abolished alongside subsidies to health funds and the money reverted to the hospital and health care system.

Arguments that you would never get into hospital for the waiting lists are fatuous, since what would take place then would be proper triage on necessity rather than on whether or not you are in a fund and can pay the docs more.

Did you read that in a fantasy novel or did it come to you in a dream? That is complete nonsense.

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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #16 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 10:32pm This could have been a post with the title "NSW wants a bigger GST for all".
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #17 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:00pm Quote: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Labor wants to flay the income tax payer......yet again
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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101398	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #18 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:04pm Swagman wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:00pm: Quote: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Labor wants to flay the income tax payer......yet again And yet, you're happy with other parties trying to place extra levies on divorce. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #19 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:05pm Swagman wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:00pm: Quote: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Labor wants to flay the income tax payer......yet again Liberal wants to flay the consumers .... yet again Ofc consumption is the great capitalist idea after all - restrict spending, less economic activity...
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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #20 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:19pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 11:49pm:

I've read the arguments and I've come to the conclusion that, like the GST, the levy should be abolished alongside subsidies to health funds and the money reverted to the hospital and health care system.

Arguments that you would never get into hospital for the waiting lists are fatuous, since what would take place then would be proper triage on necessity rather than on whether or not you are in a fund and can pay the docs more.

Did you read that in a fantasy novel or did it come to you in a dream? That is complete nonsense.

Your precision point-by-point dissection of the issues raised leaves me breathless - and wondering if you know what you are talking about other than personal attacks.

Your negotiating skills are up there with King Kong. Roll Eyes

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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #21 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:29pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 11:49pm:

I've read the arguments and I've come to the conclusion that, like the GST, the levy should be abolished alongside subsidies to health funds and the money reverted to the hospital and health care system.

Arguments that you would never get into hospital for the waiting lists are fatuous, since what would take place then would be proper triage on necessity rather than on whether or not you are in a fund and can pay the docs more.

Did you read that in a fantasy novel or did it come to you in a dream? That is complete nonsense.

Your precision point-by-point dissection of the issues raised leaves me breathless - and wondering if you know what you are talking about other than personal attacks.

Your negotiating skills are up there with King Kong. Roll Eyes

Yes, but this is how Maria negotiates, Grappler. She's that good.

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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #22 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:44pm

Melanias purse wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 11:49pm:

I've read the arguments and I've come to the conclusion that, like the GST, the levy should be abolished alongside subsidies to health funds and the money reverted to the hospital and health care system.

Arguments that you would never get into hospital for the waiting lists are fatuous, since what would take place then would be proper triage on necessity rather than on whether or not you are in a fund and can pay the docs more.

Did you read that in a fantasy novel or did it come to you in a dream? That is complete nonsense.

Your precision point-by-point dissection of the issues raised leaves me breathless - and wondering if you know what you are talking about other than personal attacks.

Your negotiating skills are up there with King Kong. Roll Eyes

Yes, but this is how Maria negotiates, Grappler. She's that good.

Yes - too much for any CFMEU bloke I'd say - have 'em on toast....

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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #23 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:48pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:44pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 11:49pm:

I've read the arguments and I've come to the conclusion that, like the GST, the levy should be abolished alongside subsidies to health funds and the money reverted to the hospital and health care system.

Arguments that you would never get into hospital for the waiting lists are fatuous, since what would take place then would be proper triage on necessity rather than on whether or not you are in a fund and can pay the docs more.

Did you read that in a fantasy novel or did it come to you in a dream? That is complete nonsense.

Your precision point-by-point dissection of the issues raised leaves me breathless - and wondering if you know what you are talking about other than personal attacks.

Your negotiating skills are up there with King Kong. Roll Eyes

Yes, but this is how Maria negotiates, Grappler. She's that good.

Yes - too much for any CFMEU bloke I'd say - have 'em on toast....

Maria probably worked for the CMFEU, Grappler. Maybe she passed a few brown paper bags onto Shorten.

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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #24 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 8:12am

Melanias purse wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:04pm:

Swagman wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:00pm:

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Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy

Labor wants to flay the income tax payer......yet again Sad

And yet, you're happy with other parties trying to place extra levies on divorce.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

All the friggin time actually.... Sad

Lets compare.

Only income tax payers are forced to pay the medicare levy, and on a progressive basis.

Govt isn't forcing you to get divorced? You are using a Govt service and as the user of that Govt service you should pay a fee for it, and not flay the income tax payer.

You ride a public bus or a train and you pay a fare. The user pays. Understandy......? Cheesy

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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #25 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48am Sadly Swag, you don't understand anything yet again. Government cross-subsidise public transport infrastructure. If only it was simple home economics. Time to get out of the kitchen...
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117926 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #26 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 10:01am Notice again - no talk of reducing public service wages? That's another way to solve the budget deficit but no Govt. wants to take on the public service unions. This is all about cowardice.
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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #27 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 10:01am:

Notice again - no talk of reducing public service wages?

That's another way to solve the budget deficit
but no Govt. wants to take on the public service unions.

This is all about cowardice.

So true. Those politicians who serve the public can make a big example and work for free - as is the expectation of the diehard libs .... oh wait, there are some contradictions here.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy Reply #28 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 4:59pm stunspore wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48am: Sadly Swag, you don't understand anything yet again. Government cross-subsidise public transport infrastructure. . .....the court is also public infrastructure....the fees subsidise its cost in exactly the same way as a fare susidises the cost of public transport
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Re: Victoria Wants A Bigger Medicare Levy
Reply #29 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 5:03pm

Swagman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 4:59pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48am:

Sadly Swag, you don't understand anything yet again. Government cross-subsidise public transport infrastructure. .

.....the court is also public infrastructure....the fees subsidise its cost in exactly the same way as a fare susidises the cost of public transport Huh

my point exactly.

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