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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117397 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2715 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 4:46pm Title fixed just by replying. Trump is Hitler - reincarnated.
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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2717 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:03pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:27pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

‘Hillary Clinton’s penchant for adventurism in foreign policy cause for concern’

Naked truth

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The history of Clinton as Secretary of State really needs to be considered in discussing the implications of her ride towards the Democratic nomination and potentially the White House, says investigative journalist and historian Gareth Porter.
The role that Hillary Clinton played as Secretary of State in the 2011 military intervention in Libya is getting new attention as dozens of officials from the US, Europe and Libya give their thoughts in interviews with The New York Times.

Gareth Porter: We can’t predict the future with any confidence. It depends on a lot of things that we can’t anticipate. But what we can depend on is history. And the history of Hillary Clinton, not as a senator, where she voted for the Iraq invasion, but as Secretary of State – is what really needs to be focused on in discussing the implications of her ride towards the nomination and potentially the White House. This is an extraordinary story.

There was an article in The New York Times a few days ago that revealed new details about how she maneuvered the Obama administration into the war, the regime change policy in Libya, which of course has turned out to be one of the worst disasters of a disastrous period in US history.

The problem is that there has been too much discussion of her vote on Iraq, and not enough discussion of really what is a much more serious aspect of her experience, which is that she made arguments within the White House meetings that no one else was making basically to go ahead with regime change or at least to make this possible.

That is part of a broader story in which she was positioning herself to run for president. She is the only one of those policy makers who was positioning herself politically. I think that’s part of the problem.

RT: Do you think that we might see another similar type of action or positioning in Syria then?

GP: Absolutely. She did very much the same thing on Syria, in a very short period of time after that. So we have both Libya and Syria on her ‘secretaryship’ as indications of just how seriously we need to take her penchant for adventurism in foreign policy.

RT: How likely are Washington and their friends the Saudis to send ground troops as part of so-called ‘Plan B,’ as mentioned per current Secretary of State John Kerry?

GP: Well, the ‘Plan B’ that John Kerry was talking about was supposedly a plan that deals with the problem of a failure of negotiations. This is what Kerry is really about. But what he is concerned about is what can the US do to try to change that; to reverse the military gains that the Russians and their Syrian and Iranian allies have made. And I simply cannot fathom how the Saudis intervening in Syria could be an answer to that problem.

RT: The Saudis are known to have a lot of Salafis ties. Would using Saudi ground forces be reliable to go after ISIS and using US-backed fighters as proxy fighters? How might this effect the regime forces?

GP: You can imagine the Saudis tagging along with Kurdish forces to go into ISIS territory. Yes, that is imaginable, at least. But sending them into Idlib or Aleppo Province to try to tangle with Hezbollah or the other forces that are now fighting the al-Nusra Front – no, I can’t really imagine that.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/334436-hillary-clintons-military-adventurism-libya/

Athos you wouldn't post a picture of Mrs Putin like that. Very naughty.
Still you wonder why Bill would shag around in the corridor if he had that at home. Blokes eh?

Do you feel offended?.
Guess who's that?.

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Reply #2718 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:08pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

This thread has got the same huge momentum that Trump's campaign has

Who was it, the big fat guy with the Aussie flag, Big Kev was it?
"I'm excited"

You're sick.

"he calls for the use of torture and for killing the innocent children and family members"

Listen up dufus
A Muslim child in a rag head walked into a German rail station today and stabbed the first police officer she saw and said she did it for IS.

Wow, gee hey. Soo how many civilians have been killed in the Middle East and Iraq since the 2003 invasion?

The US is supporting IS you idiot. You have been brain-washed.

As proof, the US, the largest and most sophisticated military machine on the planet, could not see any IS Oil refineries until the Russians started bombing them. Grin

They and the huge convoys of trucks must have been camo'd.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2719 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:21pm wow the repugs aren't the most strategic thinkers are they? What exactly did they think they would achieve by dragging out Romney? Trump didn't even have to say anything - just playing the clip of Romney kissing Trump's butt after he secured his endorsement in 2012 was instant pwnage.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6418 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2720 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:22pm Panther wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 9:39am: ....... buggy forum http://imgur.com/Qsg6NHe.gif ???
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Reply #2721 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:22pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

This thread has got the same huge momentum that Trump's campaign has

Who was it, the big fat guy with the Aussie flag, Big Kev was it?
"I'm excited"

You're sick.

"he calls for the use of torture and for killing the innocent children and family members"

Listen up dufus
A Muslim child in a rag head walked into a German rail station today and stabbed the first police officer she saw and said she did it for IS.

Nobody here supports IS.

You support the torture and murder of children.

As I said : you're sick.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2722 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:09pm

The republican party has now openly declared war on Trump, effectively splitting the race into 3 - Clinton, Trump and whoever the republicans end up picking to spoil. If they can stop Trump getting the nomination, I'd expect trump to run as independent. If he does secure the nomination, the republicans will run an "independent" against him.

More proof that the 2 "opposed" parties are just 2 sides of the same coin.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2723 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:25pm

... wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

The republican party has now openly declared war on Trump, effectively splitting the race into 3 - Clinton, Trump and whoever the republicans end up picking to spoil. If they can stop Trump getting the nomination, I'd expect trump to run as independent. If he does secure the nomination, the republicans will run an independent against him.

More proof that the 2 "opposed" parties are just 2 sides of the same coin.

So you've completely eliminated the "other" alternative?

He goes into the convention....wins....runs as their candidate.....wins......then within one year the "other" alternative......
..................... the "Grassy Knoll" Option.

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11848 Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2725 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:36pm ... wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:29pm: Well, that depends how psychotic they are. I'd expect some unrest when he doesn't win the election, but if he's assassinated, america becomes a warzone. You have to remember these facts: Don't take my word for it.....check them out for yourself.
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Reply #2726 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 7:13pm

That's awesome Panther. You are so twisted and psychotic.

This is the death toll for the NRA.

"Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide]. Those figures are likely to rise by several hundred, once incidents in the final week of the year are counted."

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Reply #2727 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 7:25pm

Panther wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

... wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Well, that depends how psychotic they are.

I'd expect some unrest when he doesn't win the election, but if he's assassinated, america becomes a warzone.

You have to remember these facts:

http://www.damnpic.net/images/2016/03/04/democrats.png

Don't take my word for it.....check them out for yourself.

Seems a bit selective of you Panther. Here is the list of mass shootings in the US for just 2015. 331 of them. Any idea how they voted?

State City Or County Address # Killed # Injured Operations
Louisiana New Orleans 1900 block of Amelia Street 0 5 N/A
Tennessee Jackson North Parkway 0 4 N/A
Pennsylvania Philadelphia 4210 Macalester St 0 4 N/A
Florida Jacksonville Franklin and Odessa 0 4 N/A
Alabama Mobile 785 Schillinger Rd S 0 4 N/A
California San Leandro 14600 block of East 14th Street 0 4 N/A
North Carolina Wilmington 11th and Castle Street 1 4 N/A
Florida Miami (Goulds) 21630 Southwest 120th Avenue 1 4 N/A
Florida Miami-dade (county) Northeast Seventh Avenue and Northeast 166th Street 0 4 N/A
Illinois Lovejoy (Brooklyn) 307 Jefferson St 1 3 N/A
California Los Angeles 5550 S. Flower Street 1 3 N/A
California Huntington Beach 17000 block of Keelson Lane 0 4 N/A
Georgia Savannah Whitaker Street 0 4 N/A
Maryland Baltimore 5100 block of Park Heights Avenue 1 3 N/A
Pennsylvania Pittsburgh (Mount Oliver) 200 Block of Brownsville Road 0 4 N/A
Ohio Cincinnati (Fairmount) 2300 block of Baltimore Avenue 1 3 N/A
Louisiana Raceland Market Street 1 3 N/A
Nebraska Omaha North 108th Street and Military Road 2 3 N/A
California San Bernardino 1365 South Waterman Avenue 16 19 N/A
Georgia Savannah 100 block of West 33rd Street 1 3 N/A
Illinois Kankakee 648 E. Court St 0 5 N/A
Colorado Colorado Springs 3480 Centennial Blvd 3 9 N/A
California Sacramento 7900 block of Florin Road 2 2 N/A
South Carolina Horry (county) 1321 Colletta Court 0 4 N/A
Ohio Columbus 90 block of S. Terrace Avenue 4 1 N/A
Minnesota Minneapolis Morgan Avenue North 0 5 N/A
Texas Brownsville 1800 Block of FM 802 0 4 N/A
Washington Seattle Broadway and Pike 0 4 N/A
Louisiana New Orleans 1900 block of Gallier Street 0 17 N/A
New York Newburgh 203 Broadway 0 5 N/A
South Carolina North Charleston Park Circle 1 3 N/A
Illinois Chicago 4100 block of West Roosevelt 0 4 N/A
Maryland Baltimore Stricker and School 1 3 N/A
Pennsylvania Pittsburgh Prospect Drive 1 3 N/A
California Fresno California Avenue and Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard 0 5 N/A
Alabama Cherokee (county) 1400 block of County Road 664 3 1 N/A
Pennsylvania Philadelphia 5600 block of Blakemore Street 0 4 N/A
Texas Tennessee Colony 800 Block of County Road 2217 5 0 N/A
Pennsylvania Johnstown 1159 Main St 0 4 N/A
Florida Jacksonville 1300 block of South Shirley Oaks Drive 4 1 N/A
Indiana Indianapolis 400 block of North Beville Ave 2 2 N/A
Michigan Warren 13859 8 Mile Road 0 4 N/A
Iowa Des Moines 4397 NW 6th Drive 1 3 N/A
Colorado Denver Bayaud and Bannock 1 3 N/A
California Bakersfield 1000 block of Feliz Drive 0 4 N/A
Florida Jacksonville Ella Street and Kings Road 2 3 N/A
South Carolina Pendleton 2217 Refuge Road 4 0 N/A
Louisiana Houma 400 Block of Morgan Street 1 3 N/A
Texas Fort Worth 1700 Block of Southcrest Drive 0 5 N/A
Indiana Evansville 711 E Virginia St 0 5 N/A
North Carolina Four Oaks 2339 Stricklands Crossroads Road 0 5 N/A
Arizona Phoenix Seventh Street and Broadway 1 4 N/A
District of Columbia Washington 4300 block of Wheeler Road SE 0 5 N/A
South Carolina Bamberg 682 Dixie Ave. 0 4 N/A
Tennessee Nashville 3500 John A. Merritt Boulevard 1 3 N/A
Illinois Calumet City 300 Campbell Avenue 0 6 N/A
Louisiana New Orleans 2600 block of Caffin Avenue 0 4 N/A
Florida Fort Myers 2224 First St 1 4 N/A
Indiana Elkhart 160 Easy Shopping Place 0 4 N/A
Georgia Decatur 4731 Glenwood Road 0 4 N/A
Tennessee Memphis 6135 Mount Moriah Road 0 6 N/A
North Carolina Charlotte 1900 block of West Boulevard 0 4 N/A
Illinois Peoria 2405 North Flora 1 3 N/A
Arizona Flagstaff 216 E Mountain View Drive 1 3 N/A
Maryland Baltimore 300 block of North Payson Street 0 5 N/A
Maryland Baltimore 5400 Reisterstown Road 1 4 N/A
Oregon Roseburg 1140 Umpqua College Rd 10 9 N/A
Ohio Cincinnati (Evanston) 1800 block of Hewitt Avenue 0 5 N/A
Illinois Chicago 300 block of West 42nd Street 3 2 N/A
Illinois Chicago 5300 block of South Aberdeen Street 2 3 N/A
Ohio Dayton 1921 Oakridge 0 4 N/A
Georgia Greenville 1140 Hill Haven Road 0 10 N/A
Illinois Chicago 5200 block of South Justine 0 4 N/A
Missouri Kansas City 1700 E. 18th St. 0 4 N/A
Illinois Danville 1300 block of May Street 0 4 N/A
Illinois Chicago 5100 block of South Morgan Street 0 5 N/A
Louisiana Shreveport 2900 Block of Peach Street 0 5 N/A
Florida Fort Myers Dale Street and Veronica S. Shoemaker Boulevard 0 4 N/A
Georgia Norcross 1300 block of Reddington Lane 1 3 N/A
Pennsylvania Philadelphia 900 block of Pratt Street 1 3 N/A
Illinois Chicago 5700 block of South LaSalle 1 5 N/A
Oklahoma Tulsa Pine and Yale 0 6 N/A
Indiana Indianapolis 3900 block of Graceland Avenue 1 3 N/A
South Dakota Platte 36705 379th Street 6 0 N/A
Michigan Albion 500 block of W. Broadwell Street 0 4 N/A

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11848 Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2728 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 7:30pm All democrats.....yep, all democrats. That is unless you can find others....Go for it!
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Reply #2729 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 7:34pm

Panther wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 7:30pm:

All democrats.....yep, all democrats. That is unless you can find others....Go for it!

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Yep, as I thought, clown time. Congratulations of cherry picking a few shootings over the last +150 years. Oh I forgot, you didn't, you just mindlessly cut and pasted the same sheeple shite you always do. Well done.

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