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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2415 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:13am

issuevoter wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:23pm:

Hey, they knocked off Kennedy; they can get rid of Trump. And you can bet they are looking for an opportunity, maybe not with a bullet just yet. But they are weighing their options.

Perhaps a terrorist suicide bomber can cancel Trump's ticket? Saddam used to pay the families of suicide bombers $25,000 as compensation, and in appreciation of the martyrdom.

Deerborn USA is stiff with Muslim malcontents. Perhaps the CIA can pay it a visit ...

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2416 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:19am

... wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Doc, you're an incompatible.

I am incompatible to the lefty narrative.
But Russian blow-ins like yourself, who brought their sh*tty ideology with them, seem to fit right in. Although, I don't think Australians will tolerate what you pricks did to the Ukrainians.

He's a Russian jew

İnteresting.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2417 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:34am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:19am:

... wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Doc, you're an incompatible.

I am incompatible to the lefty narrative.
But Russian blow-ins like yourself, who brought their sh*tty ideology with them, seem to fit right in. Although, I don't think Australians will tolerate what you pricks did to the Ukrainians.

He's a Russian jew

İnteresting.

Now an anti Semite, doc? Tsk tsk.

But it is true that you're an incompatible. Australia is a multicultural society. You don't agree. Yet we tolerate you. So you see, if we can tolerate incompatibles like you then we can tolerate other incompatibles.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2418 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:34am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:19am:

... wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Doc, you're an incompatible.

I am incompatible to the lefty narrative.
But Russian blow-ins like yourself, who brought their sh*tty ideology with them, seem to fit right in. Although, I don't think Australians will tolerate what you pricks did to the Ukrainians.

He's a Russian jew

İnteresting.

Now an anti Semite, doc? Tsk tsk.

But it is true that you're an incompatible. Australia is a multicultural society. You don't agree. Yet we tolerate you. So you see, if we can tolerate incompatibles like you then we can tolerate other incompatibles.

İ am a member of the host culture. İ can only be incompatible if 'progressives' gain full control. What about you, do you identify as an Australian or an İsraeli?

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2419 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:45am

http://goo.gl/HFkn1H

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Bill James, in a blog post, says the numbers won’t work for Trump in a two-person race. James is the inventor of what’s called sabermetrics, or the use of advanced data to analyze baseball. “When you divide the public in two and then divide the voters in one of those halves among five candidates or more, a candidate can win by dominating the m0ron vote because it only takes about one-seventh of the total population to take the ‘lead’ under those circumstances. But when you’re talking about needing 51% of the WHOLE population, rather than needing 30% of half of the population, you run out of m0rons,” he said. Politico was first to write about the post.

This swear filter is insane.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2420 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:04am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Who pays this army of pundits who day after day pump out their predictions in print, on TV and on the internet?
Since Trump entered this race back about June they started in with he will fade, he is just entertainment, people might go to see him but they won't vote for him, he can't possibly win anything. They mocked him, insulted the people who supported him, pulled every trick to try and bring him down.

Now, one by one, day by day, they are starting to say Trump will have to be stopped soon, the GOP has to do something and finally one by one, Trump could have unbeatable numbers by March 15.

Who pays these bums and why? I'm just an amateur outsider and the outcome seemed clear to me months ago.

These are the same jerks who are telling people what to think every fr*ggin day. Isn't that a scary thing? People are actually taking a lead and a direction from them. Why don't they do the honourable thing and resign?
No wonder we get so many dropkicks elected to office.

They know. They are scared, and as their fear cranks up, they get more desperate and ridiculous.

Check out the hit piece masquerading as news on news.com (a trash site masquerading as a news site).

Courting disaster: The terrifying reality of a world with President Trump

So Murdoch obviously doesn't like him. Why could that be?

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In the fullness of time...

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2421 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:20am

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

http://goo.gl/HFkn1H

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Bill James, in a blog post, says the numbers won’t work for Trump in a two-person race. James is the inventor of what’s called sabermetrics, or the use of advanced data to analyze baseball. “When you divide the public in two and then divide the voters in one of those halves among five candidates or more, a candidate can win by dominating the m0ron vote because it only takes about one-seventh of the total population to take the ‘lead’ under those circumstances. But when you’re talking about needing 51% of the WHOLE population, rather than needing 30% of half of the population, you run out of m0rons,” he said. Politico was first to write about the post.

This swear filter is insane.

Well he could be right of course. Anybody could be right. But, like the rest of the "experts" I referred to in my post quoted just above, I think all along they miss the dynamic and now, though realisation is slowly dawning, they overlook the momentum.
My view is, if the GOP race comes down to 2 candidates (unlikely because of the time constraint), Trump will win it.
When he faces Clinton, he will win that too. All the blacks and all the Hispanics and all the progressives and all the LTGBxyz's won't be able to put Humpty Hillary together again after Trump is finished with her. The reason for that is low to middle to upper America is in eruption like Krakatoa against the current order of things.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2422 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:29am PS and then maybe it will be possible to retroactively impeach Obama, or something similar, for standing in the way of due process in bringing Clinton to justice
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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2423 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:30am

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

But when you’re talking about needing 51% of the WHOLE population, rather than needing 30% of half of the population, you run out of m0rons,” he said. Politico was first to write about the post.

This swear filter is insane.

Your language is much nicer than mine.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2424 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:32am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:34am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:19am:

... wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Doc, you're an incompatible.

I am incompatible to the lefty narrative.
But Russian blow-ins like yourself, who brought their sh*tty ideology with them, seem to fit right in. Although, I don't think Australians will tolerate what you pricks did to the Ukrainians.

He's a Russian jew

İnteresting.

Now an anti Semite, doc? Tsk tsk.

But it is true that you're an incompatible. Australia is a multicultural society. You don't agree. Yet we tolerate you. So you see, if we can tolerate incompatibles like you then we can tolerate other incompatibles.

İ am a member of the host culture. İ can only be incompatible if 'progressives' gain full control. What about you, do you identify as an Australian or an İsraeli?

Why would I identify as an Israeli? I'm not from Israel.

You are an incompatible member, doc. Face it, you don't share in Australian values.

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Re: Trump still the front runner
Reply #2425 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:51am

Most recent polls show the following:

Georgia 76 d/gates - this could be a repeat of Nev
Texas 172 - Cruz will win it but take less than 1/2
Florida 99 - (Rubio's hometown) Trump to take ALL
Ohio 66 - Trump will likely beat Gov Kasich
Massachusetts 42 - Nevada v3.0
Minnesota 38 - difficult to predict
Oklahoma 23 - Trump
Alabama 50 - NH revisited

There's about 5 more on March 1, look them up if you're interested. Fair to say Trump walks away from them all a happy chappy.

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Reply #2426 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:32am

Let it not be said that I don't post anything negative to Trump . . . .Marla:

Friday, Feb 26, 2016 02:26 AM +1100

Donald Trump is an evil genius: How he abandoned political strategy and won over the GOP’s bloodthirsty base
Heather Digby Parton - Salon

The GOP frontrunner is a bully par excellence, and everyone else in the field is too scared to challenge him

Marco Rubio, the putative runner-up for the Republican nomination, told the press yesterday that he would not win the race by being mean. When the “Today” show’s Willie Geist asked him why he still didn’t need to attack Donald Trump, he said, “That is a media narrative… I’m not in this race to attack anyone… I didn’t run for office to tear up other Republicans.” He’s such a nice young man, isn’t he? So well-mannered. But you have to wonder just what race he thinks he’s running in because whether he likes it or not he’s about to be deluged with a flood of toxic insults which may leave him permanently scarred. As a headline at The Week put it: “Donald Trump is about to do terrible things to Marco Rubio.”

That article was written by Paul Waldman, who astutely observed:

As bullies go, Donald Trump is unusually skilled.

When Trump decides to go after you, he considers carefully both your weak points and the audience for his attack. So when he decided to pummel Jeb Bush — apparently for his own amusement, as much as out of any real political concerns — he hit upon the idea that Bush was “low energy,” something Bush had a hard time countering without sounding like a whiny grade-schooler saying, “Am not!” More than anything else it was a dominance display, a way of showing voters he could push Jeb around and there was nothing Jeb could do about it. With a primary electorate primed by years of watching their candidates fetishize manliness and aggression, the attack touched a nerve.

Donald Trump may be the best bully American politics has ever seen. He’s a blond-tufted silverback gorilla who’s laid waste to each rival, one by one. He’s still got Cruz and Rubio circling warily but his blood is up and he’s ready to dispatch them both. Over the course of the last few weeks, he’s whittled away at Cruz’s reputation (with Rubio’s wide-eyed assistance) and managed to turn him into the mentally unstable ghost of Lee Atwater. Now it’s Rubio’s turn. And poor Rubio doesn’t seem to be aware of what’s about to hit him.

It’s not easy to defend against Trump. As Waldman points out, Trump throws a bunch of insults at the wall to see what will stick. Once he finds what works, and he’s very good at recognizing a person’s weak points, he never lets up. Rubio is going to find that being the “nice guy” is unlikely to shield him from the onslaught.

How did this happen? Trump is a circus clown, a WWE sideshow of a candidate who has no idea about policy and apparently no knowledge of how the U.S. Government actually functions. He seems to think the president’s job is to order police agencies and the leaders of foreign countries to do his bidding. He apparently believes the job is Emperor of the World. So, perhaps it’s understandable that none of his rivals or the rest of the Party thought he could possibly last. He would step on his own tongue one too many times and that would be that.

However, it’s been obvious for some months now that this guy was the definition of a Teflon Don. And that’s because whenever he insults someone, whether it’s war hero John McCain or Fox news anchor Megyn Kelly even the Pope, it’s all about that “display of dominance.” (On one of the cable networks they asked Nevada Trump voters about the pope dust-up and one of them simply said, “The pope started it” which is exactly how a schoolyard bully’s posse would respond.) They should have shifted gears a long time ago.

Ben Wallace-Wells at the New Yorker asked GOP strategist Stuart Stevens (no friend of Trump) what he thought had gone wrong and he had some interesting insights. He first criticized the much used and abused “lane metaphor” which caused Trump’s rivals to adopt a strategy to concentrate on certain segments of the electorate. Trump meanwhile has been trying to win the elections. Stevens says this “lane” strategy has led to disaster. “It’s like some mass hysteria—it’s like the tulip mania of politics,” he says.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #2427 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 1:07pm Well if you ain't a gonna reespond to that honeychil' I guess I'm just gonna have to git and do it all by my own self. Thank the Lord America is gittin a new Marshall who can shoot straight
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Reply #2428 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 1:19pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:34am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:19am:

... wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Doc, you're an incompatible.

I am incompatible to the lefty narrative.
But Russian blow-ins like yourself, who brought their sh*tty ideology with them, seem to fit right in. Although, I don't think Australians will tolerate what you pricks did to the Ukrainians.

He's a Russian jew

İnteresting.

Now an anti Semite, doc? Tsk tsk.

But it is true that you're an incompatible. Australia is a multicultural society. You don't agree. Yet we tolerate you. So you see, if we can tolerate incompatibles like you then we can tolerate other incompatibles.

İ am a member of the host culture. İ can only be incompatible if 'progressives' gain full control. What about you, do you identify as an Australian or an İsraeli?

What a curious use of distant language Cheesy

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Reply #2429 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 2:37pm

There are two reasons primarily why the RNC have been opposed to the Trump candidacy:

1. They didn't pick him, he picked himself. Ergo they don't own him as they own the other candidates such as Rubio.
Above all the person who goes forward for the GOP as a White House candidate must, in their eyes, be one of them. Trump is a rogue.

2. They are not sure that he is really a conservative. They are deadly afraid that if he gets there he might turn out to be too moderate for their taste and have ideas way beyond their thinking. Like doing business with Putin. Like letting the Mid East go to hell unless it messes with the US. Like undoing some of the trade treaties.

So they are in there with the likes of Murdoch pushing anti-Trump stories day after day, headlines come poring out like a sewer outlet.
But the dopes don't understand that the more they do this, the people aren't stupid, they see it for what it is, and it just stirs them up more and reinforces their determination to vote for him.

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