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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #3420 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:47pm With the Boy Wonder safely in the trash bin, Truit's is most likely to get the delegates for a first ballot nomination - see NY Times, The Upshot. Gov Scott of Florida has endorsed Trump, saying its now time for GOP supporters to recognise the voters' choice.
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Reply #3422 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:48pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

Please elaborate.

He hasn't used reason to get to a position. You can figure the rest out.

Hasn't he?

Maybe you could use an example.

Mexican wall. Done. How has that position been reached by reason?

He wants to build a wall to keep illegal immigrants out, thereby reducing the pool of cheap illegal labor and increasing the potential employment opportunities for legal US residents who are struggling.

Reason checks out.

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Reply #3424 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 9:38am:

cods wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 7:21am:

if its thump.. I cant see too many foreign leaders taking him seriously to be honest.....

Nobody (with an IQ above 20) takes Drumpf seriously.

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Indeed.

To some extent, a little bit of 'Hitler' is exactly what is needed to put some balls back onto Western nations who for decades now have been terrified of upsetting the 'Ethnic Vote', the Muslims, the Darkies, the 'Gay Community', the UN, the Feminists, the ....

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Reply #3425 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:36pm

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

He wants to build a wall to keep illegal immigrants out, thereby reducing the pool of cheap illegal labor and increasing the potential employment opportunities for legal US residents who are struggling.

Reason checks out.

Damned right.

It can't be said enough that the human tide from South America insinuated itself into every nook and cranny of American society to the effect that African-Americans found themselves being displaced by the hundreds of thousands in the workplace.

It has been grossly unfair on the blacks of America.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #3426 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:47pm Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just prosecute those businesses that illegally employ illegal immigrants and pay them cheap wages?
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump still the front runner Reply #3427 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:48pm ... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:22pm: What's your reason for opposing it? Other than the fact that 1. Mexico won't pay for it 2. The cost will be prohibitive 3. Its easier to just prosecute those businesses that employ illegal immigrants 4. The first 3 reasons.
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Reply #3428 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

What's your reason for opposing it?

Other than the fact that

1. Mexico won't pay for it
2. The cost will be prohibitive
3. Its easier to just prosecute those businesses that employ illegal immigrants
4. The first 3 reasons.

Yes, other than those, because they are not real reasons.

1. The thought that the worlds most powerful nation cannot negotiate a deal with a 2nd world nation is laughable. The threat of reducing or cutting off the $750 million annual foreign aid, or repatriating some illegals would do nicely. This is how easily "do nothing bitches" like you give up.

2. The cost of illegal immigration is higher. And if mexico pay for it...
3. Not even close. Setting up a bureaucracy and enforcing it is an order of magnitude greater than pouring some concrete and some razor wire.
4. Nothing there.

These are clearly reasons you've tried to cobble together after the fact.

You didn't reason yourself into the position, and you can't be reasoned out of it.

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Reply #3429 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

What's your reason for opposing it?

Other than the fact that

1. Mexico won't pay for it
2. The cost will be prohibitive
3. Its easier to just prosecute those businesses that employ illegal immigrants
4. The first 3 reasons.

1. Oh yes they will ... link

2. Southern States US prison gang labour means costs would be minimal.

It's 'Cool Hand Luke' country down there.

3. The cost of vetting a million businesses for illegal immigrants would be horrendously expensive and almost impossible to conduct successfully because the employers would hide their cheap Illegals at the first sign of a raid.

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Reply #3430 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

What's your reason for opposing it?

Other than the fact that

1. Mexico won't pay for it
2. The cost will be prohibitive
3. Its easier to just prosecute those businesses that employ illegal immigrants
4. The first 3 reasons.

1. Oh yes they will ... link

2. Southern States US prison gang labour means costs would be minimal.

It's 'Cool Hand Luke' country down there.

3. The cost of vetting a million businesses for illegal immigrants would be horrendously expensive and almost impossible to conduct successfully because the employers would hide their cheap Illegals at the first sign of a raid.

Oh no they won't they'll just get the foreign aid from somewhere else and stop buying stuff from the US. Easy done, the point is its a far more complex situation then I'm just going to build a big wall.

Oh and I forgot a 5th reason. The mexicans will still get in.

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Reply #3431 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:18pm

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

... wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

What's your reason for opposing it?

Other than the fact that

1. Mexico won't pay for it
2. The cost will be prohibitive
3. Its easier to just prosecute those businesses that employ illegal immigrants
4. The first 3 reasons.

Yes, other than those, because they are not real reasons.

1. The thought that the worlds most powerful nation cannot negotiate a deal with a 2nd world nation is laughable. The threat of reducing or cutting off the $750 million annual foreign aid, or repatriating some illegals would do nicely. This is how easily "do nothing bitches" like you give up.

2. The cost of illegal immigration is higher. And if mexico pay for it...
3. Not even close. Setting up a bureaucracy and enforcing it is an order of magnitude greater than pouring some concrete and some razor wire.
4. Nothing there.

These are clearly reasons you've tried to cobble together after the fact.

You didn't reason yourself into the position, and you can't be reasoned out of it.

1. I'm not sure its negotiate rather than step on their throat, but ok.
2. Reference?
3. Again reference for the bureaucracy being harder than a 3145 kilometre fence at least 10 foot high (if not higher, I doubt 10 ft high fences will keep anyone out)
4. Again they are real reasons.

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Reply #3432 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:20pm

[quote author=Pastafarian link=1439262553/3430#3430 date=1458188116the point is its a far more complex situation then I'm just going to build a big wall.
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Yes. Did anybody say "we'll build a wall and that will solve the problem 100%?"

Do you leave your doors and windows wide open because "if burglars want to get in, they will anyway?" Now that I think about it - why bother having doors and windows at all?

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Reply #3433 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:24pm

Thanks to one courageous brewery, Illinois-based haters are able to protest the Republican front-runner's unfortunate victory in the state by getting drunk in the comfort of their own homes. In anticipation of Tuesday's Illinois primary, Latino-owned brewery 5 Rabbit Cervecería started bottling a limited run of its "Chinga tu Pelo," a Latin-American insult that literally translates to "bugger your hair."

The beer was originally known as "Trump Golden Ale" but was rebranded after founder Andres Araya realized he did not want to brew for the Chicago Trump Tower after Trump's inflammatory, racist comments about Mexican immigrants. There are other boozy ways to protest, too — like getting wasted on Ilegal Mezcal.

Don't get a lot of Illinois beers out this way, but if I ever see this swill, I'm buying the first round.

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Reply #3434 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:30pm

Marla wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:

after Trump's inflammatory, racist comments about Mexican immigrants.

He made cultural comments about Mexicans - not racist comments.

'Inflammatory'?

Here it is again ...

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