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Reply #2670 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm
 
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:51pm:
The spectacle will be something to see.  I wonder if they will televise him killing the families of the terrorists as he has said they meed to do?


I personally wouldn't suggest making it a "Public Policy", & I doubt a Trump Presidency would either (war crimes usually don't work well unless they're clandestine as in the CIA), but ....... What's wrong with that basic idea?

The blood line that spawned the terrorists would end.  Cool

I know the Geneva Convention forbids it, but since when does ISIS follow the "rules" of warfare??   Roll Eyes





Since when has the USA follow the rules?

How about invading a country that did them no harm and kill several hundred thousand civilians?  Iraq ring any bells?

Makes cutting a few heads off look like a sheltered workshop.
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Reply #2671 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:41pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Donald Trump when he becomes President will turn the U.S.A. around and make them proud and competitive again.

The U.S.A. has been plagued by weak inefficient Presidents for years. Obama was useless.

His so called great contribution of Obama Health care is fine, if you can afford entry level 3K a year.

If not you're on the garbage pile.

The only thing that Trump demands is that if you are fit for work you get off your arse and work. Like Australia the U.S.A. has millions who can work but put their hand out for welfare.


Your optimism is refreshing, but I'm afraid I don't share it.

My original prediction hasn't changed - that by hook or by crook, America is getting Hillary Clinton - but Trump has kept on trumping so far despite all expectations, and should he manage to keep it up all the way to the White House, I can see him trying to implement such change, but it having the effect of hastening Americas demise...in the short term.  Whatever he does will make waves, and waves can make for some poor statistics, particularly as the media is not suddenly going to become friendly to him.

It is a necessary demise though, so whether his reign is nominally "successful" or not isn't a question.  If he succeeds in implementing his plans it's positive, if he doesn't, he would at least have chipped away at the rot. 

All that changes in either scenario is whether he is remembered fondly or poorly, but Either way, a trump victory is a victory for the rest of us.
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Reply #2672 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:51pm:
The spectacle will be something to see.  I wonder if they will televise him killing the families of the terrorists as he has said they meed to do?


I personally wouldn't suggest making it a "Public Policy", & I doubt a Trump Presidency would either (war crimes usually don't work well unless they're clandestine as in the CIA), but ....... What's wrong with that basic idea?

The blood line that spawned the terrorists would end.  Cool

I know the Geneva Convention forbids it, but since when does ISIS follow the "rules" of warfare??   Roll Eyes





Since when has the USA followed the rules?

How about invading a country that did them no harm and kill several hundred thousand civilians?  Iraq ring any bells?

Makes cutting a few heads off look like a sheltered workshop.
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Reply #2673 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:52pm
 
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:51pm:
The spectacle will be something to see.  I wonder if they will televise him killing the families of the terrorists as he has said they meed to do?


I personally wouldn't suggest making it a "Public Policy", & I doubt a Trump Presidency would either (war crimes usually don't work well unless they're clandestine as in the CIA), but ....... What's wrong with that basic idea?

The blood line that spawned the terrorists would end.  Cool

I know the Geneva Convention forbids it, but since when does ISIS follow the "rules" of warfare??   Roll Eyes





Since when has the USA follow the rules?

How about invading a country that did them no harm and kill several hundred thousand civilians?  Iraq ring any bells?

Makes cutting a few heads off look like a sheltered workshop.


So based on your logic the Geneva Convention isn't important any more because nobody follows the rules laid down by it anyway, right?
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Reply #2674 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 9:19pm
 
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:52pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:51pm:
The spectacle will be something to see.  I wonder if they will televise him killing the families of the terrorists as he has said they meed to do?


I personally wouldn't suggest making it a "Public Policy", & I doubt a Trump Presidency would either (war crimes usually don't work well unless they're clandestine as in the CIA), but ....... What's wrong with that basic idea?

The blood line that spawned the terrorists would end.  Cool

I know the Geneva Convention forbids it, but since when does ISIS follow the "rules" of warfare??   Roll Eyes





Since when has the USA follow the rules?

How about invading a country that did them no harm and kill several hundred thousand civilians?  Iraq ring any bells?

Makes cutting a few heads off look like a sheltered workshop.


So based on your logic the Geneva Convention isn't important any more because nobody follows the rules laid down by it anyway, right?


No, you aren't a good listener are you.

I said that the USA does not care about international law.  It just kills people, tortures them, burns them, machine guns them in the streets, snipers shoot women, hospitals are obliterated, 'suspected' terrorists are summarily executed along with their families.

That's wat i sed.
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Reply #2675 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 9:23pm
 
... wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:41pm:
My original prediction hasn't changed - that by hook or by crook, America is getting Hillary Clinton.


Your prediction is correct.

It's not even up for debate.

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Reply #2676 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 5:22am
 
... wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:41pm:
red baron wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Donald Trump when he becomes President will turn the U.S.A. around and make them proud and competitive again.

The U.S.A. has been plagued by weak inefficient Presidents for years. Obama was useless.

His so called great contribution of Obama Health care is fine, if you can afford entry level 3K a year.

If not you're on the garbage pile.

The only thing that Trump demands is that if you are fit for work you get off your arse and work. Like Australia the U.S.A. has millions who can work but put their hand out for welfare.


Your optimism is refreshing, but I'm afraid I don't share it.

My original prediction hasn't changed - that by hook or by crook, America is getting Hillary Clinton - but Trump has kept on trumping so far despite all expectations, and should he manage to keep it up all the way to the White House, I can see him trying to implement such change, but it having the effect of hastening Americas demise...in the short term.  Whatever he does will make waves, and waves can make for some poor statistics, particularly as the media is not suddenly going to become friendly to him.

It is a necessary demise though, so whether his reign is nominally "successful" or not isn't a question.  If he succeeds in implementing his plans it's positive, if he doesn't, he would at least have chipped away at the rot. 

All that changes in either scenario is whether he is remembered fondly or poorly, but Either way, a trump victory is a victory for the rest of us.


Well said.

I was surprised to read that Switzerland has several referendums each year.

At least Donald Trump is giving the ordinary American on-the-street a referendum as to how they feel about generational, professional, never-done-a-day's-work-in-the-real-world politicians.

So far, the polling is saying that the average American wants to see a practical, no-nonsense, no bullshit, no-PC, alpha-stallion male in the Oval Office. 
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Reply #2677 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 6:20am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 5:22am:
... wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:41pm:
red baron wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Donald Trump when he becomes President will turn the U.S.A. around and make them proud and competitive again.

The U.S.A. has been plagued by weak inefficient Presidents for years. Obama was useless.

His so called great contribution of Obama Health care is fine, if you can afford entry level 3K a year.

If not you're on the garbage pile.

The only thing that Trump demands is that if you are fit for work you get off your arse and work. Like Australia the U.S.A. has millions who can work but put their hand out for welfare.


Your optimism is refreshing, but I'm afraid I don't share it.

My original prediction hasn't changed - that by hook or by crook, America is getting Hillary Clinton - but Trump has kept on trumping so far despite all expectations, and should he manage to keep it up all the way to the White House, I can see him trying to implement such change, but it having the effect of hastening Americas demise...in the short term.  Whatever he does will make waves, and waves can make for some poor statistics, particularly as the media is not suddenly going to become friendly to him.

It is a necessary demise though, so whether his reign is nominally "successful" or not isn't a question.  If he succeeds in implementing his plans it's positive, if he doesn't, he would at least have chipped away at the rot. 

All that changes in either scenario is whether he is remembered fondly or poorly, but Either way, a trump victory is a victory for the rest of us.


Well said.

I was surprised to read that Switzerland has several referendums each year.

At least Donald Trump is giving the ordinary American on-the-street a referendum as to how they feel about generational, professional, never-done-a-day's-work-in-the-real-world politicians.

So far, the polling is saying that the average American wants to see a practical, no-nonsense, no bullshit, no-PC, alpha-stallion male in the Oval Office. 


Yeah?  Where your linky?

Here's mine ...

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Reply #2678 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 7:53am
 
US election campaigns are usual dull affairs, because of their predictability, if not the result. Not so this time. I just listened to what Romney had to say about Trump, and he shows how easy it is find fault with the leading republican candidate. And still he gets the numbers.

I heard a pundit on the DRUM the other day, saying Trump was a threat to Democracy. He is a threat to some people, but you cannot say he is undemocratic when he get the most votes. That's sour grapes.

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Reply #2679 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 8:10am
 
‘Hillary Clinton’s penchant for adventurism in foreign policy cause for concern’


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The history of Clinton as Secretary of State really needs to be considered in discussing the implications of her ride towards the Democratic nomination and potentially the White House, says investigative journalist and historian Gareth Porter.
The role that Hillary Clinton played as Secretary of State in the 2011 military intervention in Libya is getting new attention as dozens of officials from the US, Europe and Libya give their thoughts in interviews with The New York Times.

Gareth Porter: We can’t predict the future with any confidence. It depends on a lot of things that we can’t anticipate. But what we can depend on is history. And the history of Hillary Clinton, not as a senator, where she voted for the Iraq invasion, but as Secretary of State – is what really needs to be focused on in discussing the implications of her ride towards the nomination and potentially the White House. This is an extraordinary story.

There was an article in The New York Times a few days ago that revealed new details about how she maneuvered the Obama administration into the war, the regime change policy in Libya, which of course has turned out to be one of the worst disasters of a disastrous period in US history.

The problem is that there has been too much discussion of her vote on Iraq, and not enough discussion of really what is a much more serious aspect of her experience, which is that she made arguments within the White House meetings that no one else was making basically to go ahead with regime change or at least to make this possible.

That is part of a broader story in which she was positioning herself to run for president. She is the only one of those policy makers who was positioning herself politically. I think that’s part of the problem.

RT:  Do you think that we might see another similar type of action or positioning in Syria then?

GP:  Absolutely. She did very much the same thing on Syria, in a very short period of time after that. So we have both Libya and Syria on her ‘secretaryship’ as indications of just how seriously we need to take her penchant for adventurism in foreign policy.

RT:  How likely are Washington and their friends the Saudis to send ground troops as part of so-called ‘Plan B,’ as mentioned per current Secretary of State John Kerry?

GP: Well, the ‘Plan B’ that John Kerry was talking about was supposedly a plan that deals with the problem of a failure of negotiations. This is what Kerry is really about. But what he is concerned about is what can the US do to try to change that; to reverse the military gains that the Russians and their Syrian and Iranian allies have made. And I simply cannot fathom how the Saudis intervening in Syria could be an answer to that problem.

RT:  The Saudis are known to have a lot of Salafis ties. Would using Saudi ground forces be reliable to go after ISIS and using US-backed fighters as proxy fighters? How might this effect the regime forces?

GP: You can imagine the Saudis tagging along with Kurdish forces to go into ISIS territory. Yes, that is imaginable, at least. But sending them into Idlib or Aleppo Province to try to tangle with Hezbollah or the other forces that are now fighting the al-Nusra Front – no, I can’t really imagine that.

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Reply #2680 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 8:10am
 
issuevoter wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 7:53am:
US election campaigns are usual dull affairs, because of their predictability, if not the result. Not so this time. I just listened to what Romney had to say about Trump, and he shows how easy it is find fault with the leading republican candidate. And still he gets the numbers.

I heard a pundit on the DRUM the other day, saying Trump was a threat to Democracy. He is a threat to some people, but you cannot say he is undemocratic when he get the most votes. That's sour grapes.



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Reply #2681 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 8:19am
 
issuevoter wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 7:53am:
US election campaigns are usual dull affairs, because of their predictability, if not the result. Not so this time. I just listened to what Romney had to say about Trump, and he shows how easy it is find fault with the leading republican candidate. And still he gets the numbers.

I heard a pundit on the DRUM the other day, saying Trump was a threat to Democracy. He is a threat to some people, but you cannot say he is undemocratic when he get the most votes. That's sour grapes.



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Reply #2682 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 9:07am
 
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 9:19pm:
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:52pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:51pm:
The spectacle will be something to see.  I wonder if they will televise him killing the families of the terrorists as he has said they meed to do?


I personally wouldn't suggest making it a "Public Policy", & I doubt a Trump Presidency would either (war crimes usually don't work well unless they're clandestine as in the CIA), but ....... What's wrong with that basic idea?

The blood line that spawned the terrorists would end.  Cool

I know the Geneva Convention forbids it, but since when does ISIS follow the "rules" of warfare??   Roll Eyes





Since when has the USA follow the rules?

How about invading a country that did them no harm and kill several hundred thousand civilians?  Iraq ring any bells?

Makes cutting a few heads off look like a sheltered workshop.


So based on your logic the Geneva Convention isn't important any more because nobody follows the rules laid down by it anyway, right?


No, you aren't a good listener are you.

I said that the USA does not care about international law.  It just kills people, tortures them, burns them, machine guns them in the streets, snipers shoot women, hospitals are obliterated, 'suspected' terrorists are summarily executed along with their families.

That's wat i sed.


So the USA & Australia does all the bad stuff, while the poor misunderstood Islamic Terrorists migrants/refugees are the good angelic guys....  Typical leftist position  ....hate your own country, hate all other similar Western Countries, hate all those that disagree, but let the Islamic Terrorists suckle at your mother's teets in warmth & comfort, & accept them for who they say they are regardless of proof....

As far as I see it, Trump is spot on....protect your own at the expense of the Islamic unknown....it's called profiling....until the Islamic unknown can be thoroughly sorted out, identified, & cleared spotless clean for importation....until then they stay Where The Fork they be!......period.....full stop.  If they die waiting, not to worry, Allah will comfort them in his bosom of infinite love.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #2683 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 9:22am
 
Panther wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 9:07am:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 9:19pm:
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:52pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Panther wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:51pm:
The spectacle will be something to see.  I wonder if they will televise him killing the families of the terrorists as he has said they meed to do?


I personally wouldn't suggest making it a "Public Policy", & I doubt a Trump Presidency would either (war crimes usually don't work well unless they're clandestine as in the CIA), but ....... What's wrong with that basic idea?

The blood line that spawned the terrorists would end.  Cool

I know the Geneva Convention forbids it, but since when does ISIS follow the "rules" of warfare??   Roll Eyes





Since when has the USA follow the rules?

How about invading a country that did them no harm and kill several hundred thousand civilians?  Iraq ring any bells?

Makes cutting a few heads off look like a sheltered workshop.


So based on your logic the Geneva Convention isn't important any more because nobody follows the rules laid down by it anyway, right?


No, you aren't a good listener are you.

I said that the USA does not care about international law.  It just kills people, tortures them, burns them, machine guns them in the streets, snipers shoot women, hospitals are obliterated, 'suspected' terrorists are summarily executed along with their families.

That's wat i sed.


So the USA & Australia does all the bad stuff, while the poor misunderstood Islamic Terrorists migrants/refugees are the good angelic guys....  Typical leftist position  ....hate your own country, hate all other similar Western Countries, hate all those that disagree, but let the Islamic Terrorists suckle at your mother's teets in warmth & comfort, & accept them for who they say they are regardless of proof....

As far as I see it, Trump is spot on....protect your own at the expense of the Islamic unknown....it's called profiling....until the Islamic unknown can be thoroughly sorted out, identified, & cleared spotless clean for importation....until then they stay Where The Fork they be!......period.....full stop.  If they die waiting, not to worry, Allah will comfort them in his bosom of infinite love.   Roll Eyes


No, you aren't a good listener are you.

I sed that the illegal deeds done by the USA far and away exceed those done by a few heads rolling.  The US is supporting those chopping the heads, how evil is that?

Really awkward moments when Putin decided to bomb the IS oil fields ... that the US couldn't find.   Grin
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Reply #2684 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 9:25am
 
athos wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 8:10am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 7:53am:
US election campaigns are usual dull affairs, because of their predictability, if not the result. Not so this time. I just listened to what Romney had to say about Trump, and he shows how easy it is find fault with the leading republican candidate. And still he gets the numbers.

I heard a pundit on the DRUM the other day, saying Trump was a threat to Democracy. He is a threat to some people, but you cannot say he is undemocratic when he get the most votes. That's sour grapes.



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