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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #30 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 4:58am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 12:08am:

lee wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

I see that the proposal cites Ivanpah as a similar technology.

Ivanpah is approx 35 degrees North, Port Augusta approx 32 South.

Ivanpah wants to add more gas burning than its original 5%, Port Augusta says that there will be no gas.

http://media.bze.org.au/Repowering_PortAugusta.pdf

Something doesn't seem quite right.

What proportion of South Australia's power requirements is met with renewable energy sources?

Which state has the highest electricity costs to consumers? Yup...SA.....muppet.

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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #31 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 5:07am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

Why are you using PV systems as a test case of renewable energy efficacy and efficiency?

Why not use large scale Solar thermal power which also operates under base load conditions?

https://churlsgonewild.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/solar_thermal_plant.jpg
http://www.flagsol.com/flagsol/cms/upload/images/Andasol-I224.jpg

Efficiency? How many thousands of hectares need to be covered to replace a coal fired power station?

Australia doesnt have any spare land anywhere that is drenched in sunshine???

Well done rider - you are certainly one of the great forward looking thinkers of our time arent you Rider.

http://thumbs.media.smithsonianmag.com//filer/Australia.jpg__800x600_q85_crop.jp...

So you have no answer. Just deflection as usual by the fraudulant socialist snake oil spruiker.

Embarrassed by the pathetic power output and reliance on beautiful fossil fuels to make the spastic solar plant run no doubt.

so solar plants are spastic now? You couple your standard bigotry against people who are different with your innate hatred of children and sprinkle some derange lunacy and ignorance and then enter this forum totally intellectually disarmed.

You are incapable of even posing a remotely sensible question let alone comprehend the basics of AGW.

A primary school student understands how human activities are driving global temperatures upwards and the intimate link between this increase and climate change, speciation loss, habitat destruction, ocean chemistry alteration, and rising sea levels etc.

Oh but the Great Rider rides into the coal sunset like a smelly putrid stenched up fossil freak maggot and hopes that nobody will notice a thing.

Apologise and then leave

What?? No freedom of speech allowed in the socialists world...would never have guessed that. Take your snake oil socialism masquerading as environmentalism and go to Cuba, they say it's a great place to live....you'd love it. Everything you spruik is garbage.

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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #32 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:13am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

Why are you using PV systems as a test case of renewable energy efficacy and efficiency?

Why not use large scale Solar thermal power which also operates under base load conditions?

https://churlsgonewild.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/solar_thermal_plant.jpg
http://www.flagsol.com/flagsol/cms/upload/images/Andasol-I224.jpg

Efficiency? How many thousands of hectares need to be covered to replace a coal fired power station?

Australia doesnt have any spare land anywhere that is drenched in sunshine???

Well done rider - you are certainly one of the great forward looking thinkers of our time arent you Rider.

http://thumbs.media.smithsonianmag.com//filer/Australia.jpg__800x600_q85_crop.jp...

So you have no answer. Just deflection as usual by the fraudulant socialist snake oil spruiker.

Embarrassed by the pathetic power output and reliance on beautiful fossil fuels to make the spastic solar plant run no doubt.

Rowan Dean is getting owned about exactly what markets are on foxtel!

It's a friggin' hoot watching him suck mea culpa realising his whole life was a waste of infected anger: lucky he got paid his thirty pieces of silver... maybe he's about to give it back cos he looks like he is ready to pull the pin out of embarrassment!

And you arguing in favour of renewables pretty much proves they aren't worth supporting..

rowan dean doesn't know how markets work: he is the joke of foxtel and they are all cringing because he got his ass handed to him

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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #33 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:16am

Rider wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 5:07am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

Why are you using PV systems as a test case of renewable energy efficacy and efficiency?

Why not use large scale Solar thermal power which also operates under base load conditions?

https://churlsgonewild.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/solar_thermal_plant.jpg
http://www.flagsol.com/flagsol/cms/upload/images/Andasol-I224.jpg

Efficiency? How many thousands of hectares need to be covered to replace a coal fired power station?

Australia doesnt have any spare land anywhere that is drenched in sunshine???

Well done rider - you are certainly one of the great forward looking thinkers of our time arent you Rider.

http://thumbs.media.smithsonianmag.com//filer/Australia.jpg__800x600_q85_crop.jp...

So you have no answer. Just deflection as usual by the fraudulant socialist snake oil spruiker.

Embarrassed by the pathetic power output and reliance on beautiful fossil fuels to make the spastic solar plant run no doubt.

so solar plants are spastic now? You couple your standard bigotry against people who are different with your innate hatred of children and sprinkle some derange lunacy and ignorance and then enter this forum totally intellectually disarmed.

You are incapable of even posing a remotely sensible question let alone comprehend the basics of AGW.

A primary school student understands how human activities are driving global temperatures upwards and the intimate link between this increase and climate change, speciation loss, habitat destruction, ocean chemistry alteration, and rising sea levels etc.

Oh but the Great Rider rides into the coal sunset like a smelly putrid stenched up fossil freak maggot and hopes that nobody will notice a thing.

Apologise and then leave

What?? No freedom of speech allowed in the socialists world...would never have guessed that. Take your snake oil socialism masquerading as environmentalism and go to Cuba, they say it's a great place to live....you'd love it. Everything you spruik is garbage.

What, no freedom from critique in 'free-market lala land' that doesn't exist and never will because governments always intervene and pick winners thus oligopoly reigns Cool

??

C'mon poindexter: show me some moves bro!!

You got shite ay bro Cheesy

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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #34 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:19am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 8:41pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

And you arguing in favour of renewables pretty much proves they aren't worth supporting..

you really should apologise mate - really nasty stuff gizmo2366

Compare to the crap YOU spew out...that was very polite, so, no, I will NOT apologise (especially not to an idiot like DRAH, or you, for that matter)

Gizmo doesn't like it when he is called out on the nomenclature of 'multi-year ice'

Hint: nomenclature is why science is done by consensus Wink

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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #35 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 6:12pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:19am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 8:41pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

And you arguing in favour of renewables pretty much proves they aren't worth supporting..

you really should apologise mate - really nasty stuff gizmo2366

Compare to the crap YOU spew out...that was very polite, so, no, I will NOT apologise (especially not to an idiot like DRAH, or you, for that matter)

Gizmo doesn't like it when he is called out on the nomenclature of 'multi-year ice'

Hint: nomenclature is why science is done by consensus Wink

Science isn't done by "consensus" Grin

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #36 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 4:48pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 6:12pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:19am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 8:41pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

And you arguing in favour of renewables pretty much proves they aren't worth supporting..

you really should apologise mate - really nasty stuff gizmo2366

Compare to the crap YOU spew out...that was very polite, so, no, I will NOT apologise (especially not to an idiot like DRAH, or you, for that matter)

Gizmo doesn't like it when he is called out on the nomenclature of 'multi-year ice'

Hint: nomenclature is why science is done by consensus Wink

Science isn't done by "consensus" Grin

Gizmo doesn't know what nomenclature is!!

Cheesy

Gizmo loves me long time and he wants every man woman and child to watch our love over and over again.... Grin

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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #37 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:17pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 4:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 6:12pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:19am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 8:41pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

And you arguing in favour of renewables pretty much proves they aren't worth supporting..

you really should apologise mate - really nasty stuff gizmo2366

Compare to the crap YOU spew out...that was very polite, so, no, I will NOT apologise (especially not to an idiot like DRAH, or you, for that matter)

Gizmo doesn't like it when he is called out on the nomenclature of 'multi-year ice'

Hint: nomenclature is why science is done by consensus Wink

Science isn't done by "consensus" Grin

Gizmo doesn't know what nomenclature is!!

Cheesy

Gizmo loves me long time and he wants every man woman and child to watch our love over and over again.... Grin

I knew what nomenclature before you were born..
It doesn't change the fact that science is NOT done by 'popular vote' or consensus.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21419 Gender:	Re: The case for renewables Reply #38 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:21pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:17pm: It doesn't change the fact that science is NOT done by 'popular vote' or consensus. Pseudo-science is.
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Re: The case for renewables
Reply #39 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:44pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:17pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 4:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 6:12pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:19am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 8:41pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

And you arguing in favour of renewables pretty much proves they aren't worth supporting..

you really should apologise mate - really nasty stuff gizmo2366

Compare to the crap YOU spew out...that was very polite, so, no, I will NOT apologise (especially not to an idiot like DRAH, or you, for that matter)

Gizmo doesn't like it when he is called out on the nomenclature of 'multi-year ice'

Hint: nomenclature is why science is done by consensus Wink

Science isn't done by "consensus" Grin

Gizmo doesn't know what nomenclature is!!

Cheesy

Gizmo loves me long time and he wants every man woman and child to watch our love over and over again.... Grin

I knew what nomenclature before you were born..
It doesn't change the fact that science is NOT done by 'popular vote' or consensus.

Gizmo hates me long time Grin

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: The case for renewables Reply #40 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:45pm lee wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:21pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:17pm: It doesn't change the fact that science is NOT done by 'popular vote' or consensus. Pseudo-science is. --> lee loves gizmo long time but gizmo love me more!!!
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21419 Gender:	Re: The case for renewables Reply #41 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:55pm He's welcome to you.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: The case for renewables Reply #42 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 6:54pm lee wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 5:55pm: He's welcome to you. Oh hell NO!!!!
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