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An end to GST-free online
Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 10:33am

The nation's leaders have agreed to broaden the GST to cover overseas online transactions under $1000 and haven't ruled other changes to the tax.

Following Prime Minister Tony Abbott's leaders retreat with premiers and chief ministers, a formal statement released on Thursday said there was an agreement to refer this issue to a meeting of the country's treasurers.

All leaders agreed to keep options on the table for future tax reform, including GST and the Medicare levy
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/leaders-agree-end-gst-free-225708855.html

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #1 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 10:34am This makes COAG worthwhile for a change.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #2 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:07am the public should boycott all the whingers that bought this on ... start with harvey norman and work from there.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #3 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:50am It will still be cheaper buying overseas so this is just gouging household budgets.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62324 Here Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #4 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:21pm ____ wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:50am: It will still be cheaper buying overseas so this is just gouging household budgets. X 2
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Reply #5 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:24pm

This is annoying as hell.

It ignores the "Australia Tax" online where stores often list near Australian prices in USD. Steam for example is already generally more expensive for new AAA games than JBhifi. It also ignores the Australian dollar is collapsing making online purchases less and less viable.

Throw Australia tax on top of digital purchases tax on top of exchange rate on top of GST and you are causing a huge mark up in prices.

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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #6 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:29pm John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:07am: the public should boycott all the whingers that bought this on ... start with harvey norman and work from there. I agree. last year I shelved a purchase from Havey Norman last year when he was going on about this. You kick me I kick back
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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #7 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:30pm John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:07am: the public should boycott all the whingers that bought this on ... start with harvey norman and work from there. No changes to GST, wasnt that the promise?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #8 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:57pm ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:07am: the public should boycott all the whingers that bought this on ... start with harvey norman and work from there. No changes to GST, wasnt that the promise? sounds vaguely familiar
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Reply #9 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:01pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:07am:

the public should boycott all the whingers that bought this on ... start with harvey norman and work from there.

No changes to GST, wasnt that the promise?

I think Abbott wants to collect the full set of broken promises from that infamous interview.

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Reply #10 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:10pm

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:24pm:

This is annoying as hell.

It ignores the "Australia Tax" online where stores often list near Australian prices in USD. Steam for example is already generally more expensive for new AAA games than JBhifi. It also ignores the Australian dollar is collapsing making online purchases less and less viable.

Throw Australia tax on top of digital purchases tax on top of exchange rate on top of GST and you are causing a huge mark up in prices.

We've had a Senate inquiry where we had a parade of various technology companies front the Senate and offer lame excuses for why they are ripping Australians off.

The "Australia Tax" overcharging is so ridiculous that it was (probably still is) possible to fly return to the USA and purchase one copy of a high-end software product, and spend less doing that than we would spend at the Australian outlet.

Nothing has been done about the Australia Tax because it would affect Australian retailers. Australian retailers are going to have to cut their prices sooner or later. It is inevitable.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #11 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:36pm a stupid decision that will change absolutely nothing for local retailers, raise nothing in effective revenue and annoy everybody. only COAG could come up with something so astonishingly pointless.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #12 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:48pm The absence of GST on online international purchases was never a policy for the benefit of the consumer. They just could not figure out how to apply tax. Its complicated.
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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: An end to GST-free online Reply #13 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:54pm Could you just put in "Notes"/"Special instructions" say if I was buying a $800 video card or something, "Can you say this was $10 or just not put the price on the box at all" or do they have to mark correct price to export?
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Reply #14 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:12pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:48pm:

The absence of GST on online international purchases was never a policy for the benefit of the consumer. They just could not figure out how to apply tax. Its complicated.

ever wondered how customs are going to charge this? Ive had this happen to me before and it is complicated AND expensive. Customs charges the GST AND customs import duty (no one talks about that, do they?). Then you have to go and pick it up yourself, pay the amount plus the $50 processing charge. And if you are 'lucky enough' to have it sent by courier, they will pay all this for you and then you ahve to pick it up from them and pay yet another $10 in their fees as well.

I recall a $280 import (back when the limit was $250) costing me an additional $150.

I predict a massive backlash against this because the online economy is huge and I am sure you will all enjoy queuing at customs to pick up your parcels.

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