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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62326 Here Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #15 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm But the telegraph story seemed to indicate that he had won the case ?
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Reply #17 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:48pm

I thought I would rehash the actual allegations contained in the Fairfax article which where found to be truthful by the court....Hockey has done his reputation no favours by giving the story validity....Smoking Joe has proven the allegations by taking it to court and losing out on the most substantial aspect of his law suite....Hockey sells his fat ass for privileged access!!!

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Treasurer Joe Hockey is offering privileged access to a select group including business people and industry lobbyists in return for tens of thousands of dollars in donations to the Liberal Party via a secretive fund-raising body whose activities are not fully disclosed to election funding authorities.

The Independent Commission Against Corruption is probing Liberal fund-raising bodies such as the Millennium Forum and questioning their influence on political favours in NSW.

Mr Hockey offers access to one of the country's highest political offices in return for annual payments.

The donors are members of the North Sydney Forum, a campaign fundraising body run by Mr Hockey's North Sydney Federal Electoral Conference (FEC). In return for annual fees of up to $22,000, members are rewarded with "VIP" meetings with Mr Hockey, often in private boardrooms.

The North Sydney FEC officials who run the forum – which is an incorporated entity of the Liberal Party – say its membership lists and therefore the identities of its donors are "confidential". Mr Hockey also says details of who he is meeting and what is discussed are confidential.

What little public information is available reveals members of the forum include National Australia Bank as well as the influential Financial Services Council, whose chief executive is former NSW Liberal leader John Brogden.

The FSC's members, including financial advice and funds management firms, stand to benefit from the changes to the Future of Financial Advice (FOFA) laws being considered by the federal government, which would involve a winding back of consumer protections introduced by Labor.

The National Australia Bank would also benefit from the changes.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasurer-for-sale-joe-hoc...

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Reply #18 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm:

But the telegraph story seemed to indicate that he had won the case ?

Not really!!!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/hockey-defamation-claim-part...

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A THREE-WORD headline and two tweets have cost Fairfax Media $200,000 after Treasurer Joe Hockey successfully sued for defamation.

MR Hockey sought substantial damages over the publication in May last year of a story about the North Sydney Forum, a "secretive" political fundraising organisation in his electorate.

The article was run in three newspapers - including under the banner headline "Treasurer for Sale" on the front page of the Sydney Morning Herald.
Federal Court Judge Richard White ruled the words "Treasurer for Sale" in large bold print on an SMH advertising placard were defamatory and Mr Hockey is owed damages of $120,000.

Two similarly-worded messages posted by The Age on Twitter were also deemed defamatory, with damages set at $80,000.

But Justice White did not uphold Mr Hockey's claims regarding the articles themselves.

The treasurer launched three parallel actions against the publishers of the SMH, The Age and The Canberra Times over the articles, related posters and tweets.

The articles said Mr Hockey was providing privileged access to a select group in return for donations to the Liberal Party via the North Sydney Forum, and that the forum's activities were not disclosed fully to election funding authorities.

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Reply #19 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:14pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

I thought I would rehash the actual allegations contained in the Fairfax article which where found to be truthful by the court....Hockey has done his reputation no favours by giving the story validity....Smoking Joe has proven the allegations by taking it to court and losing out on the most substantial aspect of his law suite....Hockey sells his fat ass for privileged access!!!

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Treasurer Joe Hockey is offering privileged access to a select group including business people and industry lobbyists in return for tens of thousands of dollars in donations to the Liberal Party via a secretive fund-raising body whose activities are not fully disclosed to election funding authorities.

The Independent Commission Against Corruption is probing Liberal fund-raising bodies such as the Millennium Forum and questioning their influence on political favours in NSW.

Mr Hockey offers access to one of the country's highest political offices in return for annual payments.

The donors are members of the North Sydney Forum, a campaign fundraising body run by Mr Hockey's North Sydney Federal Electoral Conference (FEC). In return for annual fees of up to $22,000, members are rewarded with "VIP" meetings with Mr Hockey, often in private boardrooms.

The North Sydney FEC officials who run the forum – which is an incorporated entity of the Liberal Party – say its membership lists and therefore the identities of its donors are "confidential". Mr Hockey also says details of who he is meeting and what is discussed are confidential.

What little public information is available reveals members of the forum include National Australia Bank as well as the influential Financial Services Council, whose chief executive is former NSW Liberal leader John Brogden.

The FSC's members, including financial advice and funds management firms, stand to benefit from the changes to the Future of Financial Advice (FOFA) laws being considered by the federal government, which would involve a winding back of consumer protections introduced by Labor.

The National Australia Bank would also benefit from the changes.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasurer-for-sale-joe-hoc...

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Reply #20 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm:

But the telegraph story seemed to indicate that he had won the case ?

he did dear...

this was just the judgement on who pays JOES expenses you know the dear little lawyers who dont pick up a phone with charging $20 bucks for it..do like getting paid..

and Joe was hoping smh would pay all his little LEGALS fees.. instead they pay 15%....and he picks up the rest..

its the risk you take when you sue.. and he would have known that..win some you lose some..

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Reply #21 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:46pm

cods wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm:

But the telegraph story seemed to indicate that he had won the case ?

he did dear...

this was just the judgement on who pays JOES expenses you know the dear little lawyers who dont pick up a phone with charging $20 bucks for it..do like getting paid..

and Joe was hoping smh would pay all his little LEGALS fees.. instead they pay 15%....and he picks up the rest..

its the risk you take when you sue.. and he would have known that..win some you lose some..

Hockey lost on the most substantial aspect of his case which was the contents of the article which I posted above....The only thing Fairfax was guilty of was overreach in the title and a couple of tweets....Hardly an endorsement of Hockey's integrity now is it???

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Reply #22 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:03pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:46pm:

cods wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm:

But the telegraph story seemed to indicate that he had won the case ?

he did dear...

this was just the judgement on who pays JOES expenses you know the dear little lawyers who dont pick up a phone with charging $20 bucks for it..do like getting paid..

and Joe was hoping smh would pay all his little LEGALS fees.. instead they pay 15%....and he picks up the rest..

its the risk you take when you sue.. and he would have known that..win some you lose some..

Hockey lost on the most substantial aspect of his case which was the contents of the article which I posted above....The only thing Fairfax was guilty of was overreach in the title and a couple of tweets....Hardly an endorsement of Hockey's integrity now is it???

Huh

well he lost on technicality...ok.. but he got 200k didnt he..... thats not losing well not in my bank account it wouldnt be,.

imagine the Telegraph if they had done front pages like that on swanny....the jerk.who has done more fund raising dinners than any one.

talking of INTEGRITY...

Joe wont be passing the hat round

like that brothel creeper thomo...or claiming he is too sick to pay it...THOMO a sleazebag of an artful dodger if ever there was one a self confessed liar as well. Roll Eyes

and then there is shortarse the back stabber of PM. union stand over man. who is busy trying to blame everyone else for the MONEY construction companies were force to pay with nothing to do with the EBAs. ........ then there was krudd.. who would never challenge again Roll Eyes

all full of INTEGRITY>..

sorry phill its not a word I would use if I was a lefty...

dont forget phil the smh has to pay its own people as well...has Fairfax got any money???>..

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Reply #23 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:12pm

cods wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:03pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:46pm:

cods wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm:

But the telegraph story seemed to indicate that he had won the case ?

he did dear...

this was just the judgement on who pays JOES expenses you know the dear little lawyers who dont pick up a phone with charging $20 bucks for it..do like getting paid..

and Joe was hoping smh would pay all his little LEGALS fees.. instead they pay 15%....and he picks up the rest..

its the risk you take when you sue.. and he would have known that..win some you lose some..

Hockey lost on the most substantial aspect of his case which was the contents of the article which I posted above....The only thing Fairfax was guilty of was overreach in the title and a couple of tweets....Hardly an endorsement of Hockey's integrity now is it???

Huh

well he lost on technicality...ok.. but he got 200k didnt he..... thats not losing well not in my bank account it wouldnt be,.

imagine the Telegraph if they had done front pages like that on swanny....the jerk.who has done more fund raising dinners than any one.

talking of INTEGRITY...

Joe wont be passing the hat round

like that brothel creeper thomo...or claiming he is too sick to pay it...THOMO a sleazebag of an artful dodger if ever there was one a self confessed liar as well. Roll Eyes

and then there is shortarse the back stabber of PM. union stand over man. who is busy trying to blame everyone else for the MONEY construction companies were force to pay with nothing to do with the EBAs. ........ then there was krudd.. who would never challenge again Roll Eyes

all full of INTEGRITY>..

sorry phill its not a word I would use if I was a lefty...

dont forget phil the smh has to pay its own people as well...has Fairfax got any money???>..

He lost the most substantial part of his law suit which was the contents of the article....Hardly a technicality....As for integrity I think by tainting everyone with the same brush you have shown you lack it in abundance!!!

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39943 Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #24 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:56am Quote: and Joe was hoping smh would pay all his little LEGALS fees.. instead they pay 15%....and he picks up the rest.. ....AND a significant portion of the legal costs of the parties he sued.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #25 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:07am Would love to be a fly on the wall when Joe conducts these meetings for 20k plus.
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macman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2435 australia Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #26 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:03am The brown paper bags from the north sydney forum are on the way joe,do not worry.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #27 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:07am Mr Hockey would net $250,000 from Fairfax in damages and costs but face a legal bill of about $500,000. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-22/joe-hockey-court-defamation-costs/6639246
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #28 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:26am Any idea when he is going to start representing the interests of all Australians , or do we need to pay him to listen .
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Poor Old Joe Reply #29 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:30am Its time wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:26am: Any idea when he is going to start representing the interests of all Australians , or do we need to pay him to listen .
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