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Reply #15 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16^th, 2015 at 7:01am:

and this is where the Greens Party has lost its way..

they are chasing the pot of Gold at the end of the Rainbow of the Global Warming Lie....

fighting against deforestations they only ever got scraps...

the very Mention of GW and they got showered with Billions... they have sold out along with scientists and are a huge problem in the race to the bottom of the barrel.. Sad

You have no idea what you are talking about Mechanic. You don't even understand the science.

Deforestation is a contributor to global warming. Not only do we have 7 billion people pumping CO2 into the atmosphere but now there are fewer forests to absorb that CO2. Its no wonder that 2015 is going to once again break the record for the hottest year.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20951 Gender:	Re: The Greatest Threat to Humankind is... Reply #17 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 3:11pm The Ballarat goldfields were deforested in the 1850's, does anyone believe there are any old trees in Ballarat today. Next thing the lefties will tell us the trees will never grow back.
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Reply #18 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 3:14pm

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

Tony Abbott says too much Tasmanian forest 'locked up', forms new council to support timber industry
Updated 5 Mar 2014, 7:30pm

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has declared that too many of Australia's forests are "locked up" and vowed to set up a new advisory council to support the timber industry.

Speaking at a timber industry dinner in Canberra last night, Mr Abbott also recommitted to repealing part of Tasmania's Wilderness World Heritage Area made under the forest peace deal.

His comments have prompted anger from conservationists and the Greens, who have labelled him the "dig it up, cut it down Prime Minister".

Under the Tasmanian peace deal, 170,000 hectares of forest was added to the World Heritage area.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-05/abbott-timber-industry-dinner-forestry-cou...

Now why would the Village Idiot Mk II say that? There's plenty of forest around that is secondary and tertiary etc growth and plenty of plantation... and until The Great Sellout of industry here and the importation of finished timber products from South America and Kiwiland, there were viable timber industries here.

Now they tear down hardwood and ship it on trucks to a mushing mill to create anew into woodchip... the house I'm building has some of the last remaining ironbark - you can't get it now without selling your grandmother's jewels - and I was appalled to be told those lovely hardwood logs were not destined for milling but for wood-chipping and mass export to Japan, so we could buy back shoddy stuff that has no water resistance and are told by Cam The Builder that this is the good oil to build stuff with.

All those hours and weeks planing, sanding and oiling ironbark.... damn I knew this was a bad neighbourhood when I left my gramma outside a shop in her electric shopper, and came back to find her burnt out and on blocks with the wheels stolen..... musta been the bank sending me a message about paying the mortgage...

Oh - sorry - that was Bankstown some years ago....

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Reply #19 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 3:22pm

Eastern Australia is one of the world’s 11 deforestation hotspots that together will account for 80% of global forest loss by 2030, a new report has warned.

Between 3m hectares and 6m hectares of rainforest and temperate forest, mainly stretching across New South Wales and Queensland, could be lost between 2010 and 2030 on current trends, according to the World Wildlife Fund’s Living Forests report.

This deforestation is part of a wider loss that could reach 170m hectares of forest worldwide by 2030 in 11 key areas, including the Amazon, Borneo, Sumatra, the Congo Basin and East Africa.

Ten of the 11 areas are found in the tropics and contain some of the greatest biodiversity in the world, including animals such as tigers, orangutans and gorillas, as well as Indigenous communities.

About 70% of the eastern forests of Australia have already been cleared or disturbed, with just 18% of the area under any sort of protection, the WWF report states. Australia’s forestry loss has primarily been caused by land clearing for livestock, with unsustainable logging and mining also blamed for tree felling.

WWF said the watering down of environmental protections by the previous LNP government in Queensland led to a sharp rise in land clearing, with 275,000ha torn down in the past financial year – a tripling of vegetation loss rates since 2010.

While the new Labor state government has promised to reverse this loss, the New South Wales government is set to amend land-clearing protections, despite pledging $100m to protect the state’s threatened plants and animals.

“We are deeply concerned about NSW,” said Dermot O’Gorman, chief executive of WWF Australia. “These are laws that have been shown to have been effective in saving hundreds of thousands of animals, so it’s important that biodiversity continues to be protected.

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www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/apr/27/east-australia-one-of-11-areas-accou...

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Reply #20 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 3:41pm

When I was in Tasmania last I had a great idea for a business where tourists could pick out a 1000 year old tree in an old growth forest and I would chop it down, whittle it down into a toothpick and put it into a little glass case as a souvenir for them to take home as a memento of Tassie, just been waiting for the Liberal party to get in so that I can get the necessary approvals.

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Reply #22 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 5:48pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16^th, 2015 at 7:01am:

and this is where the Greens Party has lost its way..

they are chasing the pot of Gold at the end of the Rainbow of the Global Warming Lie....

fighting against deforestations they only ever got scraps...

the very Mention of GW and they got showered with Billions... they have sold out along with scientists and are a huge problem in the race to the bottom of the barrel.. Sad

You have no idea what you are talking about Mechanic. You don't even understand the science.

Deforestation is a contributor to global warming. Not only do we have 7 billion people pumping CO2 into the atmosphere but now there are fewer forests to absorb that CO2. Its no wonder that 2015 is going to once again break the record for the hottest year.

what the bugger are you even talking about...

we need to stop deforestation.. we need to start "reforestations" ...

its not rocket surgery... Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 5:52pm

____ wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

Eastern Australia is one of the world’s 11 deforestation hotspots that together will account for 80% of global forest loss by 2030, a new report has warned.

Between 3m hectares and 6m hectares of rainforest and temperate forest, mainly stretching across New South Wales and Queensland, could be lost between 2010 and 2030 on current trends, according to the World Wildlife Fund’s Living Forests report.

This deforestation is part of a wider loss that could reach 170m hectares of forest worldwide by 2030 in 11 key areas, including the Amazon, Borneo, Sumatra, the Congo Basin and East Africa.

Ten of the 11 areas are found in the tropics and contain some of the greatest biodiversity in the world, including animals such as tigers, orangutans and gorillas, as well as Indigenous communities.

About 70% of the eastern forests of Australia have already been cleared or disturbed, with just 18% of the area under any sort of protection, the WWF report states. Australia’s forestry loss has primarily been caused by land clearing for livestock, with unsustainable logging and mining also blamed for tree felling.

WWF said the watering down of environmental protections by the previous LNP government in Queensland led to a sharp rise in land clearing, with 275,000ha torn down in the past financial year – a tripling of vegetation loss rates since 2010.

While the new Labor state government has promised to reverse this loss, the New South Wales government is set to amend land-clearing protections, despite pledging $100m to protect the state’s threatened plants and animals.

“We are deeply concerned about NSW,” said Dermot O’Gorman, chief executive of WWF Australia. “These are laws that have been shown to have been effective in saving hundreds of thousands of animals, so it’s important that biodiversity continues to be protected.

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www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/apr/27/east-australia-one-of-11-areas-accou...

this is exactly right Greens .. but it appears that you are more worried about your BUM than you are with your LIFE... and that of the Life of future generations...

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Reply #24 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 5:56pm

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

____ wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

I'm sure green-wins will argue its Abbott.

I was going to say fear. Yet abbott fits that in the way he tried to increase fear levels through chest beating and squealing terrorist are under your bed.

Abbott is doing some reforestation and you have howled him down..

you are a Fake Green...

you don't care about the world and its health.. you just want to put your penis up more male bums by trying to turn them Homosexual..

Check again. Abbott is increasing the deforestation of old growth forests at an alarming rate.

I think you missed my point a bit...

but yes...

on one hand Abbott is doing some reforestation.. but because of the lack of jobs down in Tasmania they have opened up new land for deforestation...

I do not agree with this as I've said in the Tasmanian Job thread...

its short term gain for long term pain...

Tasmania would be far better off Keeping 100% of ancient forests that they have now and even increasing the size of them .... it would produce more jobs that "wood chipping" Roll Eyes

I love Tasmania...

the only reason I (and 10s of thousands of others) go down to Tassie is for ecotourism... if they stuff that up im done... I wont be back...

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: The Greatest Threat to Humankind is... Reply #25 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 5:57pm With a little ice age imminent the Co2 concentrations are a buffer against it......
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: The Greatest Threat to Humankind is... Reply #26 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:14am The greatest threat to human kind.....is the lack of human kindNESS. Once we get that right, then and only then, we'll we be able to treat ourselves, each other, plants, animals and the environment with respect.
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Reply #27 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:38am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

The Ballarat goldfields were deforested in the 1850's, does anyone believe there are any old trees in Ballarat today.

Next thing the lefties will tell us the trees will never grow back.

they never want to talk about our BUSH FIRE heritage....either..

we have these enormous even deadly fires year in year out.........do fires not destroy forests??????......maybe they dont...maybe greens like watching fires... Roll Eyes

..either way they do seem to encourage them....

not long ago Tasmania had its worst bush fires... all since logging was thrown out of the door...they dont realise that loggers respect the forests they need for business.. they plant more trees than they log.. they also clear as they do not want their forests burnt to the ground....

but the greens no better....let the weeds and the undergrowth take over...and even the feral cats and pigs... Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 11:24am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 21^st, 2015 at 10:22am:

The Greatest Threat to Humankind is... overpopulation by humans.

Cut the human population by 1/2 and the world would be a lot better.

Totally agree sprint. Much of all the other effects, climate change, deforestation, overfishing etc shoots back home to the demands that the over sized human population is making on the planet. We are worse then any plague of locusts.

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