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Victoria Won't Support Changes To GST Says Premier
Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:53pm

Vic won't support changes to GST: Andrews

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July 15, 2015
The Australian

VICTORIA will not support increasing the GST or broadening it to include food.

PREMIER Daniel Andrews has hit back at a proposal by Treasurer Joe Hockey that would result in the states funding public hospitals.
Mr Andrews will visit Sydney next week to meet with Prime Minister Tony Abbott, state premiers and chief ministers, for meetings he expects will be dominated by talk of broadening the GST.

"Victoria will not support fundamental changes to the GST," Mr Andrews told ABC Radio 774 on Wednesday.

"I'll be clear, we're not going to have it jacked up to 15 per cent and not on food either."

Mr Andrews says he is open to discussing the introduction of the GST around the online economy and financial services.

But he says any suggestion of the states contributing more towards schools and hospitals was out of the question, especially considering Victoria already wasn't getting its share.

"Our taxes are building more hospitals and schools in other states than they are here in Victoria," he said.

"There was supposed to be no (federal) cuts to those things, they are lies, and lies are not supposed to drive reform."

Mr Hockey has ruled out any changes to the GST without unanimous agreement from all state and territory governments and bipartisan support in the federal parliament.

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Victoria Won't Support Changes To GST Says Premier Reply #1 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead... making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing.. bloody idiot.. increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties
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Reply #2 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:06pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead...

making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing..

bloody idiot..

increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties

The states would actually get more revenue from this change, not less.

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Reply #3 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:10pm

Cancel the GST in entirety - free up the cashflow through the economy... keep unnecessary funding out of the hands of inflationary governments and their grandiose pet schemes and ideas ..... reduce costs of living and thus pressures on wages to go up... make Australia more 'competitive' (baap - buzz word)... create jobs and well-being for a greater number....

Stop The Taxes! (not 'strop the axes', Igor.. get a grip, man....)

If the GST was the Messiah for the States and their economies (much as WorkChoices was the Golden Messiah for industrial relations and chopping down those wage trees that were growing too fast - LMAO) - why then is there this massive 'need' to privatise and conjoin infrastructure projects with 'private industry' - meaning politicians, their families and their mates etc - thus causing higher and higher costs virtually on a daily basis?

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Reply #4 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:11pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead...

making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing..

bloody idiot..

increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties

The states would actually get more revenue from this change, not less.

Yes people would be paying more tax and as he points out much of it payed in Vic and NSW would be going to fund other states.

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Reply #5 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:15pm

And all taxpayers would be worse off and would not buy as much and business would suffer .... gambling would increase in the hope of The Big Win ... crime would rise....everything else would go up to match including wages and all costs of living... and we would, within three months, be back where we started only a lot worse off.

Dumb As.... (not the guy who wrote The Three Musketeers)....

Cancel The GST!

Why do so many find it so hard to see that raising costs of living has the direct effect of raising wages to suit... and it is just an endless merry-go-round with people falling off it all the time through no fault of their own?

Raising taxes is the same as cutting wages, and that puts immediate pressure on wages to go up..... hello....

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Victoria Won't Support Changes To GST Says Premier Reply #6 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:44pm That's ok just don't give VIC *any* GST revenue if it's the evil boogieman.... Dan can sell a few public assets to raise revenues....
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Reply #7 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:54pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:

That's ok just don't give VIC any GST revenue if it's the evil boogieman.... Cheesy

Dan can sell a few public assets to raise revenues.... Cheesy

..or secede from the Union, raise his own taxes, and start the Civil War off...

"We're marching through Victoria..."

"Old Gough Whitlam lies a-mouldering in his grave,
But his soul goes marching on..."

"Ah wish ah was in Vic-sey, hooray, hooray"...

"Why.. any southern gentleman can lick TEN Yankees!"

"Indeed, but the South has only two cannon factories!"

"What difference does that make to a gentleman, suh?"

"I'm afraid it will make a lot of difference to a lot of Southern gentlemen!"

"You, suh - are a COWARD!"

"As you wish....."

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Reply #8 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:19pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead...

making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing..

bloody idiot..

increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties

The states would actually get more revenue from this change, not less.

yes I was wondering when dan-the-dope would work that out. the increased GST would give VIc more revenue.

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Reply #9 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead...

making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing..

bloody idiot..

increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties

The states would actually get more revenue from this change, not less.

yes I was wondering when dan-the-dope would work that out. the increased GST would give VIc more revenue.

Ban the GST and that entire discussion dies a long-overdue death.... and governments of all sides will have to look to austerity in their profligate spending instead of relying on the good old taxpaying public to make up EVERY shortfall.

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Reply #10 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:26pm

A 10% rise to Average Jo and Joe, a 10% rise in sales to business instead of government, a 10% rise in living standard for pensioners and unemployed etc, same level of taxation recouped from income tax and sales taxes, reduction in pressure upward on incomes.... Win, Win, Win, Win, Win........

Bring On the Single Tax Regime.......

Abolish The GST....

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Reply #11 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:33pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

A 10% rise to Average Jo and Joe, a 10% rise in sales to business instead of government, a 10% rise in living standard for pensioners and unemployed etc, same level of taxation recouped from income tax and sales taxes, reduction in pressure upward on incomes.... Win, Win, Win, Win, Win........

Bring On the Single Tax Regime.......

Abolish The GST....

abolish the age pension and the GST.

how's that sound?

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Reply #12 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 6:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead...

making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing..

bloody idiot..

increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties

The states would actually get more revenue from this change, not less.

yes I was wondering when dan-the-dope would work that out. the increased GST would give VIc more revenue.

So would seceding from the Commonwealth. None of this 90% of GST revenue or 30% of roads funding per capita or other Federal taxes that bleed Victoria dry to prop up the other states ... Victoria could have it ALL.

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Reply #13 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 6:32pm

Bam wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

if dickhead dan wasn't such a dickhead...

making changes to the GST is exactly what he should be doing..

bloody idiot..

increase, broaden the GST and cut out Stamp Duties

The states would actually get more revenue from this change, not less.

yes I was wondering when dan-the-dope would work that out. the increased GST would give VIc more revenue.

So would seceding from the Commonwealth. None of this 90% of GST revenue or 30% of roads funding per capita or other Federal taxes that bleed Victoria dry to prop up the other states ... Victoria could have it ALL.

except a military or respect or the AFL.

let's face it. THe VIc govt would disagree with anything abbott suggested.

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Reply #14 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 10:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

A 10% rise to Average Jo and Joe, a 10% rise in sales to business instead of government, a 10% rise in living standard for pensioners and unemployed etc, same level of taxation recouped from income tax and sales taxes, reduction in pressure upward on incomes.... Win, Win, Win, Win, Win........

Bring On the Single Tax Regime.......

Abolish The GST....

abolish the age pension and the GST.

how's that sound?

Why abolish the pension? It's not sucking the life out of everybody.. it is rather, contributing back into revenue via taxation at a higher rate than most and it sustains countless people.

The pension is not causing higher costs of living etc - it is helping business by providing money for pensioners to spend.. etc... a 10% increase in pension would be a boost to business.

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