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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #720 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:18am
 
The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

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7. Rivers run to sea-level on the stationary flat Earth
Rivers run down to sea-level finding the easiest course, North, South, East, West and all other intermediary directions over the Earth at the same time. If Earth were truly a spinning ball then many of these rivers would be impossibly flowing uphill. For example the Mississippi river in its 3000 miles would have to ascend 11 miles before reaching the Gulf of Mexico.

One portion of the Nile River flows for a thousand miles with a fall of only one foot. Parts of the West African Congo, according to the supposed inclination and movement of the ball-Earth, would be sometimes running uphill and sometimes down. This would also be the case for the Parana, Paraguay and other long rivers.

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8. The night sky and Polaris
Viewed from a ball-Earth, Polaris, situated directly over the North Pole, should not be visible anywhere in the Southern hemisphere. For Polaris to be seen from the Southern hemisphere of a globular Earth, the observer would have to be somehow looking “through the globe,” and miles of land and sea would have to be transparent. Polaris can be seen, however, up to over 20 degrees South latitude.

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9. The Southern Cross and Southern Constellations
If Earth was a ball, the Southern Cross and other Southern constellations would all be visible at the same time from every longitude on the same latitude. This is the case in the North with Polaris and its surrounding constellations. Ursa Major/Minor and many others can be seen from every Northern meridian simultaneously whereas in the South, constellations like the Southern Cross cannot. This proves the Southern hemisphere is not “turned under” as in the ball-Earth model, but simply stretching further outwards away from the Northern center-point as in the flat Earth model.

There are several constellations which can be seen from far greater distances over the face of the Earth than should be possible if the world were a rotating, revolving, wobbling ball. For instance, Ursa Major, very close to Polaris, can be seen from 90 degrees North latitude (the North Pole) all the way down to 30 degrees South latitude. For this to be possible on a ball-Earth the Southern observers would have to be seeing through hundreds or thousands of miles of bulging Earth to the Northern sky.

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Antarctica around the circumference of the Flat Earth
10. Antarctica is not a Continent or a Pole
The so-called “South Pole” is simply an arbitrary point along the Antarctic ice marked with a red and white barbershop pole topped with a metal ball-Earth. This ceremonial South Pole is admittedly and provably NOT the actual South Pole. The actual South Pole could be demonstrably confirmed with the aid of a compass showing North to be 360 degrees around the observer. Since this feat has never been achieved, the model remains pure theory.  The establishment’s excuse that the geomagnetic poles supposedly constantly move around making verification of their claims impossible.

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11. Horizontal structures on the flat Earth: railways, canals, tunnels and bridges
Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects. Canals, railways, bridges and tunnels are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles without any allowance for curvature.

For example, the Suez Canal connecting the Mediterranean with the Red Sea is 100 miles long without any locks making the water an uninterrupted continuation of the two seas. When constructed, the Earth’s supposed curvature was not taken into account, it was dug along a horizontal datum line 26 feet below sea-level, passing through several lakes from one sea to the other, with the datum line and water’s surface running perfectly parallel over the 100 miles.

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12. Sunrise and Sunset on the stationary Earth
The theory of the rotation of the earth may once and for all be definitely disposed of as impracticable by pointing out the following inadvertence. It is said that the rotation takes twenty-four hours and that its speed is uniform. If that would be the case, days and nights should have an identical duration of twelve hours each all the year round. The sun should invariably rise in the morning and set in the evening at the same hours. The result would be there would be an equinox every day from the 1st of January to the 31st of December. One should stop and reflect on this before saying that the earth has a movement of rotation. How does the system of gravitation account for the seasonal variations in the lengths of days and nights if the earth rotates at a uniform speed in twenty-four hours!?”

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #721 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:20am
 
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13.  Air Travel would not be possible on a globe Earth
If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected.

If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph, then the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph should never be able to reach its Eastward destinations before they come speeding up from behind! Likewise Westward destinations should be arrived at thrice the speed, but this is not the case.

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14.  Early explorer finds the flat Earth to be motionless
In his book “South Sea Voyages,” Arctic and Antarctic explorer Sir James Clarke Ross, described his experience on the night of November 27th, 1839 and his conclusion that the Earth must be motionless:

The sky being very clear … it enabled us to observe the higher stratum of clouds to be moving in an exactly opposite direction to that of the wind–a circumstance which is frequently recorded in our meteorological journal both in the north-east and south-east trades, and has also often been observed by former voyagers. Captain Basil Hall witnessed it from the summit of the Peak of Teneriffe; and Count Strzelechi, on ascending the volcanic mountain of Kiranea, in Owhyhee, reached at 4000 feet an elevation above that of the trade wind, and experienced the influence of an opposite current of air of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition … Count Strzelechi further informed me of the following seemingly anomalous circumstance–that at the height of 6000 feet he found the current of air blowing at right angles to both the lower strata, also of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition, but warmer than the inter-stratum. Such a state of the atmosphere is compatible only with the fact which other evidence has demonstrated, that the earth is at rest.

Sir James Clarke Ross

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15. South Sea and Antarctic Voyagers conclude the Earth is flat
During Captain James Clark Ross’s voyages around the Antarctic circumference, he often wrote in his journal perplexed at how they routinely found themselves out of accordance with their charts, stating that they found themselves an average of 12-16 miles outside their reckoning every day, later on further south as much as 29 miles.

Lieutenant Charles Wilkes commanded a United States Navy exploration expedition to the Antarctic from 1838 to 1842, and in his journals also mentioned being consistently east of his reckoning, sometimes over 20 miles in less than 18 hours.    To quote Reverend Thomas Milner:

In the southern hemisphere, navigators to India have often fancied themselves east of the Cape when still west, and have been driven ashore on the African coast, which, according to their reckoning, lay behind them. This misfortune happened to a fine frigate, the Challenger, in 1845. How came Her Majesty’s Ship ‘Conqueror,’ to be lost? How have so many other noble vessels, perfectly sound, perfectly manned, perfectly navigated, been wrecked in calm weather, not only in dark night, or in a fog, but in broad daylight and sunshine – in the former case upon the coasts, in the latter, upon sunken rocks – from being ‘out of reckoning?’” The simple answer is that Earth is not a ball.

Reverend Thomas Milner

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16.  Antarctica on the flat motionless Earth
On the ball-Earth model Antarctica is an ice continent which covers the bottom of the ball from 78 degrees South latitude to 90 and is therefore not more than 12,000 miles in circumference. Many early explorers including Captain Cook and James Clark Ross, however, in attempting Antarctic circumnavigation took 3 to 4 years and clocked 50-60,000 miles around. The British ship Challenger also made an indirect but complete circumnavigation of Antarctica traversing 69,000 miles. This is entirely inconsistent with the ball model.

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #722 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:22am
 
17. Air Travel South of the Equator only logical on the flat Earth
If Earth was a ball there are several flights in the Southern hemi-plane which would have their quickest, straightest path over the Antarctic continent such as Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. Instead of taking the shortest, quickest route in a straight line over Antarctica, all such flights detour all manner of directions away from Antarctica instead claiming the temperatures too cold for airplane travel! Considering the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica, and NASA claims to have technology keeping them in conditions far colder (and far hotter) than any experienced on Earth, such an excuse is clearly just an excuse, and these flights aren’t made because they are impossible.

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On a ball-Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight shot over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth.

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18. Temperature differences are easy to understand on a flat Earth
If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.

We live on a Flat Earth
We can find hundreds of real-life, logical proofs, as well as empirical evidence that are based on real scientific measurements and observations, not extreme mathematical theories. According to the dictionary:

…Empirical evidence may be synonymous with the outcome of an experiment. In this sense, an empirical result is a unified confirmation.

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Our Flat Earth is indeed a Level, Motionless Plain with a magnificent, unparalleled and  diverse Eco-system of life forms. If we could just love and respect Her more, this would truly be the wonderful world it was meant to be.

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The above proofs were based on the blog post by Eric Dubay: ‘200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball’ with the expressed permission of the author. For all the 200 proofs please visit:

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball...
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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #723 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:27am
 
the above are valid questions and unrebbutted truths that sad ones ignore

they prefer to rant and rave and abuse ..

poor rascals .. yet the facts remain unmolested ..

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #724 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:30am
 
Attempted subject changes and deflections by Light to avoid answering the questions below, since they were asked as of 02/04/18 @ 0930 now totals:

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31st March - 9:42pm
1st of April - 6:00pm

And still no answers.

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:27am:
the above are valid questions and unrebbutted truths that sad ones ignore


So by that logic, the unrebutted questions of mine put to you, that were asked days before you latest spam are proof that you're wrong?

Thanks for clearing that up.
Light has been defeated
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times over.  How sad.

All you need to do is for once answer the question, if you dare.
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Reply #725 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:42am
 
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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #726 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:37am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:42am:

Attempted subject changes and deflections by Light to avoid answering the questions below, since they were asked as of 02/04/18 @ 1035 now totals:

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31st March - 9:42pm
1st of April - 6:00pm

And still no answers.

You can ask as many other question you like but I won't address them until you address mine, and I suggest others do the same.

I've given you far too much leniency in this thread and let you escape the questions asked of you by me and others for far too long. 

The whole time we still consume your posts, only to answer those questions you put forward as a distraction only to have the answers ignored and more questions thrown at us.

Not this time.  I'm taking a stand against your tactics.

Please answer the questions above, thanks.

A brief history for those just catching up: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1436049755/718#718
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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #727 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:48am
 
so nothing at 13:20 here ,



Flat Earth Dome Explained 100% & the Entrance to Agartha


the nasa can not find or detect any satellites ..

maybe they are these ?

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #728 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:55am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:48am:
so nothing at 13:20 here ,



Flat Earth Dome Explained 100% & the Entrance to Agartha


the nasa can not find or detect any satellites ..

maybe they are these ?

http://www.vizocomsat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Satellite-Cellular.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChAf0g7WMAAee40.jpg




Attempted subject changes and deflections by Light to avoid answering the questions below, since they were asked as of 02/04/18 @ 1055 now totals:

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31st March - 9:42pm
1st of April - 6:00pm

And still no answers.

Now we're being told Satellite's don't exist as if this answers the questions above about how the sun drops below the horizon illuminating the tops very high objects but the earth casts its shadow on the lower parts and how this could be possible if the Sun is at a uniform distance of ~3000 miles within the dome surrounding the flat earth.

As stated in the questions put to you, I'm not asking for a video, just write down and reply with your answers to the questions.

Again brother Light has failed to answer the questions yet feels entitled to ask more of others.

You can ask as many other question you like but I won't address them until you address mine, and I suggest others do the same.

I've given you far too much leniency in this thread and let you escape the questions asked of you by me and others for far too long. 

The whole time we still consume your posts, only to answer those questions you put forward as a distraction only to have the answers ignored and more questions thrown at us.

Not this time.  I'm taking a stand against your tactics.

Please answer the questions above, thanks.

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #729 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 2:04pm
 
What is the point of creating such a huge, word-wide deception about the shape of the planet? 
Who benefits? What difference does it make that is worth the creation of such a huge deception, from North Korea, China, Japan, to Iran, Egypt, Cuba, Canada, US?  Why spend so much money on a pointless hoax??? How come the commies, the mullahs, the Democrats, the fascists, the vegans, the anarchists - everyone is in on it except the dead-eyed conspiracy theorists for whom EVERYTHING is a deception.


For you guys everyone ELSE is driving on the wrong side of the road because you have a mania about jewish freemasons. Ludicrous.

What other conspiracies are they perpetrating? Is anyone who has ever done something significant NOT a freemason?

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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #730 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:33pm
 
just spam and spam and spam from sad one ..

then abuse .. why and what for ?

to disrupt the thread .. as all answers get posted yet are ignored ..



An Introduction to Flat Earth - 35 Flat Earth Questions Answered (Flat Earth Proof)


1. What does the Flat Earth look like? (0:15)
2. Where’s the edge? (1:09)
3. Where is the Sun on a Flat Earth? (2:07)
4. What about ships disappearing over the horizon? (3:02)
5. Why can’t I see across the oceans? (3:47)
6. How is circumnavigation possible on a Flat Earth? (4:22)
7. What about the Felix Baumgartner Red Bull Jump? (4:57)
8. What is underneath the Flat Earth? (5:45)
9. Does the Flat Earth move? (6:29)
10.  What about Satellites, ISS, and the Hubble Space Telescope? (7:23)
11. Why is the Moon upside down in the Southern Hemisphere? (9:02)
12. What about the pictures of Earth from Space? (9:39)
13. Is the Moonlight just reflection of the Sun’s light? (10:52)
14. What about stars and does Outer Space even exist? (12:18)
15. Why do the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size? (13:01)
16. What about eclipses? (13:48)
17. What about the Coriolis Effect? (15:23)
18. Are the other planets flat? (16:26)
19. What about Gravity? (17:26)
20. What about Seasons? (19:29)
21. What about Time Zones? (20:22)
22. What about the Moon and Mars Landings? (21:01)
23. What about seeing the curve from an airplane window? (22:20)
24. What about Foucault’s Pendulum? (23:11)
25. How do you explain North and South on a Flat Earth? (24:03)
26. What about meteors, comets, and craters? (24:55)
27. Is there a dome over the flat Earth? (26:39)
28. Is Flat Earth only for religious people? (27:32)
29. Does the Bible say the Earth is flat? (28:06)
30. What about the Flat Earth Society? (28:52)
31. Who is behind the deception? (30:16)
32. Why would they lie about Flat Earth? (31:17)
33. Are all Scientists, Pilots, Engineers, and members of the Government in on the lie? (32:26)
34. Who is spreading the Flat Earth message? (33:16)
35. Why does it matter if Earth is flat? (34:50)
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Reply #731 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:34pm
 
I think it is simple if the flat Earthers will answer some questions.

Question 1. Do flatearther believe in Newton Mechanics and in particular the Inverse Square Law?
Update: Forget answering, I just viewed some of the video above and it claims Gravity is a hoax.

It's logic is wrong. it says only bouyancy should account for everything. But bouyancy only works because of gravity. They argue that because we cannot find gravity so it is not real.

Bloody hell. I am not going to bother. Flat Earthers are clearly a group of super trolls who have nothing to do with their weekends. Their meetings must be  laugh as they laugh at the people they suck in.
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Reply #732 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:52pm
 
I can see people are interested and when they look at the evidence they get scared .. frantic and abusive even !

just calm down and realize you have been lied to by nasa ..



Planet Flat Earth | 2018 Nature Documentary II
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Re: Flat Earth
Reply #733 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:06pm
 
this is a must see presentation , the facts are in



FINALLY!!! SCIENTISTS PROVE EARTH IS NOT A GLOBE!!! CHECKMATE!!


these scientists have done the calibrations for over 7 years ..

the nasa lie just does not stack up ..

"This documentary is the result of 7 years of research by Dakila scientists. Spoilers...they uttered the phrase "The Earth is Flat"."


and people are upset and demanding answers , yet I am not the one whom has lied unto thee .. beloved

if you do not watch the evidence presented you may as well move on and take your ignorances with you

or stay and spam away for ye shall be ignored hence forth ..

ye may yet be at peace

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Reply #734 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 5:09pm
 
I prefer to believe in the Aliens from round planets here just to perform anal probes as there is more evidence for that than the flat earth theory. Enjoy.
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