Hey Stratos I know you have multiple personalities but you should apologise to the forum for you alter ego chimp_logic.

hairy arse, hairy arse where art thou hairy arse.

Back in three days....and counting....!!!!

So you stupid chimp are you any wiser taking the month off.

Marla wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:


Miss Muffet you really must be a cork head.

Chimp and I are arch rivals in the debate on anthropogenic global warming.

Where on earth have you pulled out sex gratification through pain.....................................??????

If its because I'm refering to his hairy arse you have a wicked mind Miss Muffet................

I could have used any number of derogative phrases, like maggot mouth, bannana breath, red arse etc etc.

Marla wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 3:23am:


Miss Muffet you really have to take the blinkers off, when the cigarette corporations employed doubt artists to trick the world that cigarettes didn't cause cancer that's what these artists played the doubt card cause that's all they had.

The sceptical scientists are not presenting doubt but facts in the way of observed data.

List is so big where should we start.

1. In all our history even when we had 7000ppm in the atmosphere, CO2 has never controlled temperature here on Earth.

2. The only evidence the IPCC and other alarmist organisations have is in their computer climate models.

3. A major fingerprint of the IPCC models is that the tropopause should have a hot spot about 12 kilometres from sea level.
Real world observations like weather balloons ans satellite data have failed to detect this hot spot.


http://joannenova.com.au/


4. So then the alarmists started to say that the missing heat is in the oceans, first the top 700 metres then the deep ocean down to 2000-3000 metres.

The argo system has been in place since 2002 and while it has recorded a warming of the oceans its nowehere near what the computer models of the alarmists says it should be. If by chance you know where this missing heat is we're all ears.

5. What about the dishonesty of the IPCC and Michael Mann getting rid of the medieval warm period and the mini ice age in his hockey stick, the medieval warm period was at least as hot as today, proving climate has cycles, where it warms and cools.

a. 30-years of global cooling from 1880 to 1910
b. 30-years of global warming from 1910 to 1940
c. 30-years of global cooling from 1940 to 1970
d. 30-years of global warming from 1970 to 2000

In one paper out the next

6. What about climate gate, if that doesn't convince you nothing else will. See here

http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/climatega...

7. What about the fact that the alarmists are so polarised and have even called for the death penalty for scientist that are sceptical does this not ring alarm bells for you...??????
Is this science..??? shouldn't science be sceptical until proven,,,!!!!!

8. What about all the observations of the IPCC 1990 report about the now here in 2015, wow did they get it wrong but why aren't we hearing about this in the news, their temperature is way over what real world observations are being recorded, and the Maldives should now be under water, HUH.....!!!!!!

In accordance with their predictions any normal science community would say well boys and girls we presented our theory did our calculations and they don't match real world observations, therefore back to the drafting board, we are wrong and we'll start again.

9. What about the fact that every time their are natural disasters the alarmists blame it on climate change, you should have heard some of the outrageous, things said here in Australia. Scare tactics for the unsuspecting, alarm bells should be ringing here too!!!

If its real no need for drama...????

10. What about the fact that banks and bankers are financing the anthropogenic global warming religion to start a $2 trillion dollar carbon deravites market, where instead of reducing manmade CO2, they will increase it to keep this market healthy, they know full well CO2 dosent control temperature here on Earth.

Eventually thing like our superannuation will find its way into this market then who would want to see it collapse..??

11. The melting of the arctic has happened before, see bottom of post titled,

Is there any correlation between CO2 and temperature?

2 posts down.

There are so many more but I think I have the main ones, now do you want to see your children and grand children funding the world banks deratives market through carbon taxes and Emission trading schemes for the air they breath.

Cause that's what its all about taxing us on the air we breath....LOL

Miss Muffet look like you need to reassess all things in this world and never stop doing so.

Yeah sure so what the Kotch brothers may have tried and are still trying to knock AGW religion of its pedestal, but the facts are there now for all to see its not all based on doubt like the cigarettes.

Its based on FACTS from real world data...!!!

Is there any correlation between CO2 and temperature?

(1).....On a small time scale

(NO)

,

(11,000 years)

Showing from 200 to 11000 years ago, the subsequent graph is based on ice core data, readily visible in files hosted on the servers of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA):GISP 2 and EPICA Dome C

Graph-1

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/11/does-co2-correlate-with-temperature-histor...

(2).....On a medium time scale YES???, (450,000 years)

(NO)

, It appears so because of the scale we are zoomed out at.

WARNING !

This is the scale that most global warming sites use to scare the unsuspecting.

Over the past few hundred thousand years of ice core data, a “medium” time scale in this sense, CO2 superficially appears to change in step with temperature if a graph is so zoomed out as to not show sub-millennial time
scales well

Graph-2

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/11/does-co2-correlate-with-temperature-histor...

A record of temperature and atmospheric CO2 over the past 400,000 years is preserved in the Vostok Ice Core and is shown in the figure on the right.

It can be seen that there have been a series of large fluctuations in temperature (the Ice Ages), accompanied by large changes in atmospheric CO2.

It is thought that these large temperature fluctuations are triggered by Milankovitch cycles - variations in the earth's orbit that change the amount of energy from the sun that reaches us.

However, on their own, these cycles are not enough to explain the changes in temperature.

The full explanation seems to be that the small change in temperature caused by the changing orbit are amplified by natural processes on earth. These cause CO2 to be released from the oceans and the biosphere, causing an increased greenhouse effect.

This is described more fully in this article from the New Scientist (see also Shackleton 2000). For more details on the timing of changes in CO2 and temperature, click on the figure.

http://www.brighton73.freeserve.co.uk/gw/paleo/paleoclimate.htm#100,000years

(3).....On a long time scale

(NO)

,

(millions of years)

Graph-3

[url]http://s155.n46.n171.n68.static.myhostcenter.com/WVFossils/Reference_Docs/Geocarb_III-Berner.pdf[/urll]

(4).....Lately

September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

May 1947 - arctic melting

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22429983?searchTerm=climate%20change&sea...

November 1922 - arctic melting

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf