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Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
May 29^th, 2015 at 10:14pm

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The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

Christopher Booker
6:25PM GMT 28 Mar 2009

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-lev...

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Compelling reading here.

Interview with Dr.Nils-Axel Morner - this guy wrote the laws about tides.

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

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Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Reply #1 - May 29^th, 2015 at 10:22pm

LOL The good doctor was using a very famous landmark some tree on a prison island in the Maldives to prove his point that sea level are not rising and then in his own words ?????

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There came an Australian sea-level team, which was for the IPCC and against me. Then the students pulled down the tree by hand! They destroyed the evidence. What kind of people are those?”

Well good doctor i can answer that one LOL they more than likely would have been homosexual communists that go under the banner of the GREENS. LOL

He goes on to say

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They call themselves scientists, and they’re destroying evidence! A scientist should always be open for reinterpretation, but you can never destroy evidence. And they were being watched, thinking they were clever.”

A scientists should always be open for reinterpretation crickeys try telling that to the IPCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

The global warming alarmists have even gone as far as calling scientists who disagree with the global warming religion terrorists!

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' Reply #2 - May 30^th, 2015 at 6:13pm My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise
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Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Reply #3 - May 30^th, 2015 at 6:41pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise Grin

that's your favourite is it innocentmaggot?

Then you will love this from your master. Do you remember the name of the Rio Tinto CEO who said this little gem of wisdom?

".....the Earth's resources are not finite"

I am sure the freak maggot puppet and Dr Sircus disciple would revel in such wise words ladies and gentlemen

There can be no higher form of ignorance and its insane immoral equivalence than to declare oneself, in public, an AGW denialist crack pot. These freak maggots are very special breeds of deranged fascist corporate lunatics ladies and gentlemen

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Mini Ice Age (2014-2029)
Dr Sircus cures cancer with Baking Soda and Magnesium - Jethro the MENTAL GIANT & his flute madness

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Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Reply #4 - May 30^th, 2015 at 8:14pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise Grin

that's your favourite is it innocentmaggot?

Then you will love this from your master. Do you remember the name of the Rio Tinto CEO who said this little gem of wisdom?

".....the Earth's resources are not finite"

I am sure the freak maggot puppet and Dr Sircus disciple would revel in such wise words ladies and gentlemen

There can be no higher form of ignorance and its insane immoral equivalence than to declare oneself, in public, an AGW denialist crack pot. These freak maggots are very special breeds of deranged fascist corporate lunatics ladies and gentlemen

don't feed the troll

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' Reply #5 - May 30^th, 2015 at 9:33pm I think you two might suffer from a bit of cranium subsidence
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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' Reply #6 - May 30^th, 2015 at 10:39pm innocentbystander. wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:33pm: I think you two might suffer from a bit of cranium subsidence that caustic remark was totally uncalled for I think you should make a sincere and formal apology
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' Reply #7 - May 31^st, 2015 at 9:46am Got nothing to say about sea levels rising being the biggest bunch of cr@p ever...!!! All you got is name calling and personal insults.
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Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Reply #8 - Jun 1^st, 2015 at 1:19pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise Grin

that's your favourite is it innocentmaggot?

Then you will love this from your master. Do you remember the name of the Rio Tinto CEO who said this little gem of wisdom?

".....the Earth's resources are not finite"

I am sure the freak maggot puppet and Dr Sircus disciple would revel in such wise words ladies and gentlemen

There can be no higher form of ignorance and its insane immoral equivalence than to declare oneself, in public, an AGW denialist crack pot. These freak maggots are very special breeds of deranged fascist corporate lunatics ladies and gentlemen

don't feed the troll

are you trying to kill the internet Cool

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Reply #9 - Jun 1^st, 2015 at 1:28pm

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

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The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

Christopher Booker
6:25PM GMT 28 Mar 2009

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-lev...

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Compelling reading here.

Interview with Dr.Nils-Axel Morner - this guy wrote the laws about tides.

www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

weird photo

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' Reply #10 - Jun 7^th, 2015 at 11:19am That's the tree those homosexual greens working for the IPCC pulled out of the ground.
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Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Reply #11 - Jun 7^th, 2015 at 7:08pm

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 10:22pm:

LOL The good doctor was using a very famous landmark some tree on a prison island in the Maldives to prove his point that sea level are not rising and then in his own words ?????

- and being ignorant, you can't see the fallacy in using a single point on the globe as evidence for a global phenomenon.

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Nelson's "find" is a man some of us found years ago and have seen as a source of wild entertainment ever since. He's called Nils-Axel Mörner, and among his claims to fame are that he possesses paranormal abilities to find water and metal using a dowsing rod, and that he has discovered "the Hong Kong of the [ancient] Greeks" in Sweden.

The celebrated debunker of cobblers James Randi challenged Mörner to demonstrate his expertise with a dowsing rod, but he "consistently refused to be tested". He did however, allow his paranormal abilities to be examined on Swedish television, using a test that Mörner himself devised: dowsing for a packet of sugar concealed under one of 10 cups. Needless to say, he failed, blaming, as such people so often do, "interference" and "influences".

Where do you find all these nuts? He travelled to this place in the Maldives, and not only did he just measure a single fixed "tidal gauge" (ok tree) he actually used the wrong tree for his measurements. Grin

He's a good "mate" of Monckton's too. (Not that there is anything wrong with that)

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Reply #12 - Jun 7^th, 2015 at 7:25pm

Ajax, This is a world map showing Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA).

Some parts of the world's landmasses are rising, while others are falling. (Superimpose on that an increase in Ocean level.)

Can you find the Maldives on that map?

That's right. It corresponds to an area of very little isostatic adjustment. Do you know how much isostatic rebound and other local effects can vary on a local scale?

Be ashamed.

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Reply #13 - Jun 8^th, 2015 at 10:17am

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 7^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

Ajax, This is a world map showing Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA).

Some parts of the world's landmasses are rising, while others are falling. (Superimpose on that an increase in Ocean level.)

Can you find the Maldives on that map?

That's right. It corresponds to an area of very little isostatic adjustment. Do you know how much isostatic rebound and other local effects can vary on a local scale?

http://www.psmsl.org/train_and_info/geo_signals/gia/rsl_vm2.gif

Be ashamed.

Johno according to your mod's predictions the Maldives should be in 2015 underwater, especially that tree those homosexual greens from the IPCC knocked over.

Unfortunately for you that is not that case......!!!!!!

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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2217 Gender:	Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' Reply #14 - Jun 8^th, 2015 at 10:30am Who is my mod? I'm not aware of any predictions about the Maldives in 2015. Are you saying that all IPCC contributing Scientists are homosexuals? This beats them all. Are you a moon landing denier too by any chance?
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