Brian Ross wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 12:05am:
you see, I said none of this and none was implied. Its my country Brian, and my culture. I really have little issue with migrants as long as they understand this and adapt to my culture, just as I would and have done when travelling to their countries. The fact that they expect us to adapt to their culture says a lot about their cultural mindset. You are trying to make me out to be a blind racist, Im not. I have done a lot of travelling, including Muslim countries and found the people there to be hospitable although mysogynistic But I adapted to their culture and I was accepted. Thats the difference.

rhino wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 11:55pm:



What a load of rubbish. Most Muslim men think nothing of the sort.

The ones i have met have better gender politics than you, Rhino.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 1:11pm:



The politics of many Islamic countries are far more complicated than hat is dictated by religion.

Many Islamic countries treat their women just fine.

Muslim men in Australia are no better or worse in their attitudes towards women than any other group of men.

I personally think a great many of you need to sort yourselves out.

Here Soren, get yourself an education:

"If that misogyny is so innately Arab, why is there such wide variance between Arab societies? Why did Egypt's hateful "they" elect only 2 percent women to its post-revolutionary legislature, while Tunisia's hateful "they" elected 27 percent, far short of half but still significantly more than America's 17 percent? Why are so many misogynist Arab practices as or more common in the non-Arab societies of sub-Saharan Africa or South Asia? After all, nearly every society in history has struggled with sexism, and maybe still is. Just in the U.S., for example, women could not vote until 1920; even today, their access to basic reproductive health care is backsliding. We don't think about this as an issue of American men, white men, or Christian men innately and irreducibly hating women. Why, then, should we be so ready to believe it about Arab Muslims?

A number of Arab Muslim feminists have criticized the article as reinforcing reductive, Western perceptions of Arabs as particularly and innately barbaric. Nahed Eltantawy accused the piece of representing Arab women "as the Oriental Other, weak, helpless and submissive, oppressed by Islam and the Muslim male, this ugly, barbaric monster." Samia Errazzouki fumed at "the monolithic representation of women in the region." Roqayah Chamseddine wrote, "Not only has Eltahawy demonized the men of the Middle East and confined them into one role, that of eternal tormentors, as her Western audience claps and cheers, she has not provided a way forward for these men." Dima Khatib sighed, "Arab society is not as barbaric as you present it in the article." She lamented the article as enhancing "a stereotype full of overwhelming generalizations [that] contributes to the widening cultural rift between our society and other societies, and the increase of racism towards us."

Dozens, maybe hundreds, of reports and papers compare women's rights and treatment across countries, and they all rank Arab states low on the list. But maybe not as close to the bottom as you'd think. A 2011 World Economic Forum report on national gender gaps put four Arab states in the bottom 10; the bottom 25 includes 10 Arab states, more than half of them. But sub-Saharan African countries tend to rank even more poorly. And so do South Asian societies -- where a population of nearly five times as many women as live in the Middle East endure some of the most horrific abuses in the world today. Also in 2011, Newsweek synthesized several reports and statistics on women's rights and quality of life. Their final ranking included only one Arab country in the bottom 10 (Yemen) and one more in the bottom 25 (Saudi Arabia, although we might also count Sudan). That's not to downplay the harm and severity of the problem in Arab societies, but a reminder that "misogyny" and "Arab" are not as synonymous as we sometimes treat them to be.

The other way to think about misogyny in the Arab world is as a problem of misogyny. As the above rankings show, culturally engrained sexism is not particular to Arab societies. In other words, it's a problem that Arab societies have, but it's not a distinctly Arab problem. The actual, root causes are disputed, complicated, and often controversial. But you can't cure a symptom without at least acknowledging the disease, and that disease is not race, religion, or ethnicity."


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-real-roots-of-sexis...


I strongly suggest you read the entire article. It's very illuminating.

mothra wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 10:18pm:


This.

Ironic isn't it?

The usual suspects come here day in day out to rant and rave about muslim lies and deceit - and either partake in, or spinelessly apologise for the islamophobic lies and deceit.

We Christians must face it: the Bible is hugely misogynistic   

|dev|null wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

Where is the Muslim 'leader' saying the same about the Koran and Mohammed?

Soren wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:


Is there a Muslim leader Soren?  Who are they?  Where are they?   Point them out, I have a few bones to pick with an identified leader of the Islamic faith!