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Reply #60 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:19pm  
rhino wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Heres what ABC fact check states

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Scott Morrison correct on 'illegal entry' of people without a visa

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935372



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Reply #61 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:24pm  
rhino wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Heres what ABC fact check states

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Scott Morrison correct on 'illegal entry' of people without a visa

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935372


Did you read all of that link, Rhino?  Would you like me to highlight those parts of it which demonstrate how wrong you are when you assert this:

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The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.


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Reply #62 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:29pm  
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Reply #63 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:31pm  
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:08pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 4:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 3:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 3:04pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 2:01pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 12:37pm:
Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:37am:
Horseshit.  7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey?  How  much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.



what a stupid post and typical of a morally and intellectually bankrupt PUP supporter. Thailand, Malaysia and INdonesia are NOT australia - which is not really news to most of us.

Abbott stopped the boats and even Labor and the Greens admit that.  Only fools like PUP and other boofheads want to include boats from other countries en route to yet another country in the tally.

Abbott won. You lost.


abbott won? what did he win?

didn't abbott say he would remove the pull factors that led these people to risk their lives ... maybe they're being 'pulled'  by Abbott animal magnetism  Grin Grin Grin



its hard to argue with outcomes.  ZERO BOATS.  Howard and Abbott knew how to deal with this problem and proved it.


it's hard to argue anything with your head so firmly planted up your back & side, but nevertheless you manage

someone did promise no more pull factors therefore no more drownings at sea? right?


and there arent any.  or are you so anally retentive and idiotic that you want to blame abbott for drownings in other parts of the world on boats NOT heading to australia?


aren't any? asylum seekers are drowning everywhere.

Not heading to Australia? wasn't the preferred route to Malaysia through Indonesia and then to Australia, and we have thousands missing from Malaysia to Indonesia ... how can you say they're not heading to Australia? should they cross the North Pole first? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Good grief....  no visa you are illegal... that is clear and certain.
Claim Asylum and under the stupid UN convention you cannot be subjected to penalties under the law re that illegality, unless you are found to not be a genuine Refugee.
If people in boats are drowning or in trouble outside our Territorial waters they are not our responsibility.
Honestly John, wake up to yourself and ditch the hatred that fogs your brain. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #64 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:35pm  
rhino wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:29pm:
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That Poll will not protect you, Rhino.  Post the link to the section of the Act which supports this bold assertion of yours.  (Do that, and I'll vote 'yes,' in your Poll.)

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The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

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Reply #65 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:35pm  
Grendel wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:31pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:08pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 4:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 3:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 3:04pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 2:01pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 12:37pm:
Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:37am:
Horseshit.  7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey?  How  much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.



what a stupid post and typical of a morally and intellectually bankrupt PUP supporter. Thailand, Malaysia and INdonesia are NOT australia - which is not really news to most of us.

Abbott stopped the boats and even Labor and the Greens admit that.  Only fools like PUP and other boofheads want to include boats from other countries en route to yet another country in the tally.

Abbott won. You lost.


abbott won? what did he win?

didn't abbott say he would remove the pull factors that led these people to risk their lives ... maybe they're being 'pulled'  by Abbott animal magnetism  Grin Grin Grin



its hard to argue with outcomes.  ZERO BOATS.  Howard and Abbott knew how to deal with this problem and proved it.


it's hard to argue anything with your head so firmly planted up your back & side, but nevertheless you manage

someone did promise no more pull factors therefore no more drownings at sea? right?


and there arent any.  or are you so anally retentive and idiotic that you want to blame abbott for drownings in other parts of the world on boats NOT heading to australia?


aren't any? asylum seekers are drowning everywhere.

Not heading to Australia? wasn't the preferred route to Malaysia through Indonesia and then to Australia, and we have thousands missing from Malaysia to Indonesia ... how can you say they're not heading to Australia? should they cross the North Pole first? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Good grief....  no visa you are illegal... that is clear and certain.
Claim Asylum and under the stupid UN convention you cannot be subjected to penalties under the law re that illegality, unless you are found to not be a genuine Refugee.
If people in boats are drowning or in trouble outside our Territorial waters they are not our responsibility.
Honestly John, wake up to yourself and ditch the hatred that fogs your brain. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Law of the Sea (not the C who runs the show here).... all must come to the aid of those in peril on the sea......
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Reply #66 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:37pm  
zipa de doo dah zipa de day, my o my what a wonderful day
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Reply #67 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:37pm  
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Good grief....  no visa you are illegal... that is clear and certain.


Rubbish. "You" are not illegal at all.  Your entry into Australia may not have met all the requirements of the Act....but 'you' are not illegal.
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Reply #68 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:39pm  
rhino wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:37pm:
zipa de doo dah zipa de day, my o my what a wonderful day
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Reply #69 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:48pm  
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Reply #70 - May 21st, 2015 at 7:49pm  
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:35pm:
Grendel wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:31pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:08pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 4:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 3:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 3:04pm:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 2:01pm:
longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 12:37pm:
Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:37am:
Horseshit.  7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey?  How  much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.



what a stupid post and typical of a morally and intellectually bankrupt PUP supporter. Thailand, Malaysia and INdonesia are NOT australia - which is not really news to most of us.

Abbott stopped the boats and even Labor and the Greens admit that.  Only fools like PUP and other boofheads want to include boats from other countries en route to yet another country in the tally.

Abbott won. You lost.


abbott won? what did he win?

didn't abbott say he would remove the pull factors that led these people to risk their lives ... maybe they're being 'pulled'  by Abbott animal magnetism  Grin Grin Grin



its hard to argue with outcomes.  ZERO BOATS.  Howard and Abbott knew how to deal with this problem and proved it.


it's hard to argue anything with your head so firmly planted up your back & side, but nevertheless you manage

someone did promise no more pull factors therefore no more drownings at sea? right?


and there arent any.  or are you so anally retentive and idiotic that you want to blame abbott for drownings in other parts of the world on boats NOT heading to australia?


aren't any? asylum seekers are drowning everywhere.

Not heading to Australia? wasn't the preferred route to Malaysia through Indonesia and then to Australia, and we have thousands missing from Malaysia to Indonesia ... how can you say they're not heading to Australia? should they cross the North Pole first? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Good grief....  no visa you are illegal... that is clear and certain.
Claim Asylum and under the stupid UN convention you cannot be subjected to penalties under the law re that illegality, unless you are found to not be a genuine Refugee.
If people in boats are drowning or in trouble outside our Territorial waters they are not our responsibility.
Honestly John, wake up to yourself and ditch the hatred that fogs your brain. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Law of the Sea (not the C who runs the show here).... all must come to the aid of those in peril on the sea......

Oh dear Law of the Sea...  you probably should read it.
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Reply #71 - May 21st, 2015 at 8:04pm  
rhino wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Heres what ABC fact check states

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Scott Morrison correct on 'illegal entry' of people without a visa

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935372



you missed this bit on that link

Experts contacted by ABC Fact Check say it is not appropriate to use "illegal" when specifically describing asylum seekers or refugees.

Professor Jane McAdam, director of the International Refugee and Migration Law Project at the University of New South Wales, says that "asylum seekers are not illegal under international law".

"By ratifying the Refugee Convention, governments agree precisely not to treat asylum seekers as illegal," Professor McAdam said.

Professor Andreas Schloenhardt, from the University of Queensland law school took a similar view, saying "the terms 'asylum seeker' and 'illegal' should not be used together or in the same sentence".
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Reply #72 - May 21st, 2015 at 8:07pm  
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:04pm:
rhino wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Heres what ABC fact check states

Quote:
Scott Morrison correct on 'illegal entry' of people without a visa

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935372



you missed this bit on that link

Experts contacted by ABC Fact Check say it is not appropriate to use "illegal" when specifically describing asylum seekers or refugees.

Professor Jane McAdam, director of the International Refugee and Migration Law Project at the University of New South Wales, says that "asylum seekers are not illegal under international law".

"By ratifying the Refugee Convention, governments agree precisely not to treat asylum seekers as illegal," Professor McAdam said.

Professor Andreas Schloenhardt, from the University of Queensland law school took a similar view, saying "the terms 'asylum seeker' and 'illegal' should not be used together or in the same sentence".


Ferking hell, Mr Smith! I had not finished baiting my bloody hook!

Oh well, the horse has bolted now, as has Rhino.
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Reply #73 - May 21st, 2015 at 8:08pm  
Grendel wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Good grief....  no visa you are illegal... that is clear and certain.



the only thing certain is your level of stupidity ... an asylum seeker entering Australia without a visa is UNLAWFUL, not illegal

Grendel wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:31pm:
If people in boats are drowning or in trouble outside our Territorial waters they are not our responsibility.


then perhaps one shouldn't make such blanket statements.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Grendel wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Honestly John, wake up to yourself and ditch the hatred that fogs your brain.


Hatred? Grin Grin Grin no hatred Goose, merely applying the same standard to him that you and every other dickhead applied to labor for 6 yrs. You can only wonder what it's like with no fog.
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Reply #74 - May 21st, 2015 at 8:21pm  
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:04pm:
Professor Andreas Schloenhardt, from the University of Queensland law school took a similar view, saying "the terms 'asylum seeker' and 'illegal' should not be used together or in the same sentence".[/i]




Er.... he just did.... use them in the same sentence.
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