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Reply #30 - May 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:11pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 2:50pm:

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The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

Would you mind linking the section?

a bit of logic should suffice. if it is not illegal to not have a visa, then having one would be optional, right? try arriving in australia at an airport or port and see how it works out not to have one.

idiot.

I'm not, in this instance, looking for logic. The poster:

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The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

All I am asking for is a link to the section which states it so clearly.

Too much to ask?

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Reply #31 - May 21^st, 2015 at 3:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 2:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 12:37pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

Horseshit. 7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey? How much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.

what a stupid post and typical of a morally and intellectually bankrupt PUP supporter. Thailand, Malaysia and INdonesia are NOT australia - which is not really news to most of us.

Abbott stopped the boats and even Labor and the Greens admit that. Only fools like PUP and other boofheads want to include boats from other countries en route to yet another country in the tally.

Abbott won. You lost.

abbott won? what did he win?

didn't abbott say he would remove the pull factors that led these people to risk their lives ... maybe they're being 'pulled' by Abbott animal magnetism Grin

its hard to argue with outcomes. ZERO BOATS. Howard and Abbott knew how to deal with this problem and proved it.

it's hard to argue anything with your head so firmly planted up your ar$e, but nevertheless you manage

someone did promise no more pull factors therefore no more drownings at sea? right?

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Reply #33 - May 21^st, 2015 at 3:58pm

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:14pm:

'unlawful killing'. Does that mean murder is not illegal but only unlawful?

no, it means that in some cases killing is legal (eg. when shooting someone who is about to shoot you or when an executioner executes someone)

you have an incredible ability to miss the point, something you do most of the time. illegal and unlawful are IDENTICAL TERMS.

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Reply #34 - May 21^st, 2015 at 4:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:58pm:

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:14pm:

'unlawful killing'. Does that mean murder is not illegal but only unlawful?

no, it means that in some cases killing is legal (eg. when shooting someone who is about to shoot you or when an executioner executes someone)

you have an incredible ability to miss the point, something you do most of the time. illegal and unlawful are IDENTICAL TERMS.

no, it is you who misses the point. Whilst killing is unlawful, as you can see from the examples given, it is not always illegal.

Not to worry longie, it's perfectly understandable that somebody with your sheat for brains is able to miss such a fine (but nevertheless still valid) distinction

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Reply #35 - May 21^st, 2015 at 4:02pm

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 2:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 12:37pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

Horseshit. 7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey? How much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.

what a stupid post and typical of a morally and intellectually bankrupt PUP supporter. Thailand, Malaysia and INdonesia are NOT australia - which is not really news to most of us.

Abbott stopped the boats and even Labor and the Greens admit that. Only fools like PUP and other boofheads want to include boats from other countries en route to yet another country in the tally.

Abbott won. You lost.

abbott won? what did he win?

didn't abbott say he would remove the pull factors that led these people to risk their lives ... maybe they're being 'pulled' by Abbott animal magnetism Grin

its hard to argue with outcomes. ZERO BOATS. Howard and Abbott knew how to deal with this problem and proved it.

it's hard to argue anything with your head so firmly planted up your back & side, but nevertheless you manage

someone did promise no more pull factors therefore no more drownings at sea? right?

and there arent any. or are you so anally retentive and idiotic that you want to blame abbott for drownings in other parts of the world on boats NOT heading to australia?

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Reply #36 - May 21^st, 2015 at 4:06pm

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 4:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:58pm:

John Smith wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:14pm:

'unlawful killing'. Does that mean murder is not illegal but only unlawful?

no, it means that in some cases killing is legal (eg. when shooting someone who is about to shoot you or when an executioner executes someone)

you have an incredible ability to miss the point, something you do most of the time. illegal and unlawful are IDENTICAL TERMS.

no, it is you who misses the point. Whilst killing is unlawful, as you can see from the examples given, it is not always illegal.

Not to worry longie, it's perfectly understandable that somebody with your sheat for brains is able to miss such a fine (but nevertheless still valid) distinction

your understanding of words is so bad. even in the example you quoted (offtopic) killing in self-defence is both legal and lawful. It is not one and not the other. the words are IDENTICAL in meaning therefore interchangeable in any sentence or context.

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Reply #37 - May 21^st, 2015 at 4:40pm

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

Horseshit. 7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey? How much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.

Gawd, you're stupid! Yes - they stopped the boats from coming here! That was the policy, that was achieved. End of story.

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Reply #38 - May 21^st, 2015 at 4:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 4:40pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

Horseshit. 7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey? How much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.

Gawd, you're stupid! Yes - they stopped the boats from coming here! That was the policy, that was achieved. End of story.

The 'turn them back' policy was based on the premise that it would deter people from getting onto leaky boats, and drowning at sea.

That has now been proven to be a total flop. The boats have not stopped, and how embarrassing is it that Indonesia and Malaysia are doing all the 'lifting' while Abbott does all the 'leaning?'

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Reply #39 - May 21^st, 2015 at 5:00pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 4:40pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

Horseshit. 7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey? How much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.

Gawd, you're stupid! Yes - they stopped the boats from coming here! That was the policy, that was achieved. End of story.

Exactly. But the left are nothing but Alinsky attack dogs, they just keep on with their hate and lies. Vile cretins the lot.

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Reply #40 - May 21^st, 2015 at 5:53pm

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:11pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 2:50pm:

Quote:

The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

Would you mind linking the section?

a bit of logic should suffice. if it is not illegal to not have a visa, then having one would be optional, right? try arriving in australia at an airport or port and see how it works out not to have one.

idiot.

I'm not, in this instance, looking for logic. The poster:

Quote:

The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

All I am asking for is a link to the section which states it so clearly.

Too much to ask?

you claim you are an ex lawyer. very well, this is something any lawyer would know straight off the bat. i could link it but the question i would ask is, why dont you know such a simple thing? You really arent aware that people who enter Australia without a visa do so illegally? Really? An ex lawyer doesnt know this? Even if you were the dumbest lawyer in the world a simple google would have given you the answer and saved anyone from questioning your credentials. So whats your game here?

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Reply #41 - May 21^st, 2015 at 5:55pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 4:40pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

Horseshit. 7,000 believed to be at sea and Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia have now agreed to accept them on land with some conditions.

Stopped the boats ey? How much egg on how many faces, and how right were those who insisted the boats were still leaving, and that people were still at risk on the high seas?

You are an arsehole Abbott.

Gawd, you're stupid! Yes - they stopped the boats from coming here! That was the policy, that was achieved. End of story.

correct. I think Ozzy is being deliberately stupid here for some reason. probably thinks he has some sort of obscure point to make.

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Reply #42 - May 21^st, 2015 at 6:07pm

rhino wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 5:53pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:11pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 2:50pm:

Quote:

The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

Would you mind linking the section?

a bit of logic should suffice. if it is not illegal to not have a visa, then having one would be optional, right? try arriving in australia at an airport or port and see how it works out not to have one.

idiot.

I'm not, in this instance, looking for logic. The poster:

Quote:

The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

All I am asking for is a link to the section which states it so clearly.

Too much to ask?

you claim you are an ex lawyer. very well, this is something any lawyer would know straight off the bat. i could link it but the question i would ask is, why dont you know such a simple thing? You really arent aware that people who enter Australia without a visa do so illegally? Really? An ex lawyer doesnt know this? Even if you were the dumbest lawyer in the world a simple google would have given you the answer and saved anyone from questioning your credentials. So whats your game here?

hate.

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Reply #43 - May 21^st, 2015 at 6:44pm

rhino wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 5:53pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 3:11pm:

Aussie wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 2:50pm:

Quote:

The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

Would you mind linking the section?

a bit of logic should suffice. if it is not illegal to not have a visa, then having one would be optional, right? try arriving in australia at an airport or port and see how it works out not to have one.

idiot.

I'm not, in this instance, looking for logic. The poster:

Quote:

The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

All I am asking for is a link to the section which states it so clearly.

Too much to ask?

you claim you are an ex lawyer. very well, this is something any lawyer would know straight off the bat. i could link it but the question i would ask is, why dont you know such a simple thing? You really arent aware that people who enter Australia without a visa do so illegally? Really? An ex lawyer doesnt know this? Even if you were the dumbest lawyer in the world a simple google would have given you the answer and saved anyone from questioning your credentials. So whats your game here?

Put up, Rhino. Where is the link which supports your bold announcement?

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The immigration act clearly states that anyone entering Austyralia without a valid visa does so illegally.

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: They stopped the boats??? Reply #44 - May 21^st, 2015 at 6:58pm If you have no idea what LEGISLATION people are talking about, use Google and Fetch it yourself, Aussie, LLB. Here's a hint http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ma1958118/
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